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[NotebookCheck] Intel's 7nm Ocean Cove architecture might deliver 80 percent gains to IPC and higher clocks in 2022

Source: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-....467539.0.html

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A leak on Weibo purportedly lists IPC and process node gains for Intel's upcoming Golden Cove and Ocean Cove architectures. The 7nm Ocean Cove, in particular, looks interesting, allegedly built on the 7nm process and offering upwards of 80 percent IPC gains.

A Weibo user has posted what appear to be estimates for process node and IPC improvements to Intel's upcoming core architectures, including Ocean Cove and Golden Cove. These were spotted by tipster @MebuiW.

According to the tipster, Ocean Cove, releasing in 2022 or 2023, will be Intel's first volume 7nm design and will deliver as much as an 80 percent increase to IPC relative to the Skylake architecture.
Very exciting Haswell gamers will finally have something worth upgrading to aside from more threads.

Jim Keller recently mentioned they'll be using significantly bigger cores.

https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/1352...re-intel-cpus/

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It is his intention to gain performance on a Sunny Cove successor by implementing a "significantly bigger" core than used for this most recently shipping architecture.

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Jim Keller project's are always interesting. Has he ever been involved in a bad chipset project.
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Probably, it's simply not publicized as the rest.

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I was expecting 2023 at the earliest for Intel to come up with a competitive architecture. It took them about 6 or so years to come up with Conroe after the fail that was Netburst.

As for the process node, I'm rather less optimistic unless Jim Keller can get design and manufacturing to work seamlessly together.

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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
Source: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-....467539.0.html



Very exciting Haswell gamers will finally have something worth upgrading to aside from more threads.

Jim Keller recently mentioned they'll be using significantly bigger cores.

https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/1352...re-intel-cpus/
in other words intel will boost the base number of cores from 6 to 10 while actual (true) ipc gains will be around 15%

intel has been using multi-threaded performance and clock increases and calling it "ipc" for about 4 years now. when intel talks IPC these days it almost never really means ipc.

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Quote: Originally Posted by azanimefan View Post
in other words intel will boost the base number of cores from 6 to 10 while actual (true) ipc gains will be around 15%

intel has been using multi-threaded performance and clock increases and calling it "ipc" for about 4 years now. when intel talks IPC these days it almost never really means ipc.
This is referring to single core IPC. Sunny Cove cores are already 18% faster than Skylake.
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I am eagerly awaiting Intel's next big CPU. 80% IPC gains is probably only for particular workloads, but IPC across the board aught to be significantly higher. I hope it is another intel core2duo moment.
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I am eagerly awaiting Intel's next big CPU. 80% IPC gains is probably only for particular workloads, but IPC across the board aught to be significantly higher. I hope it is another intel core2duo moment.
We have to remember that Sunny Cove is already 18% faster, Willow Cove is going to be 7% faster than Sunny Cove. Rumors also suggest Golden Cove will be 25% faster than Willow Cove. So that puts Ocean Cove 30% faster than Golden Cove.

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That 80% figure looks far less impressive after you realize it's compared to a chip that came out in 2015. By 2023 Skylake will be 8 years old, so "80%" is about 10% a year. Still impressive, but let's not go bandying around the C word yet.
That would be 50%+ gains in ONE year.

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We have to remember that Sunny Cove is already 18% faster, Willow Cove is going to be 7% faster than Sunny Cove. Rumors also suggest Golden Cove will be 25% faster than Willow Cove. So that puts Ocean Cove 30% faster than Golden Cove.
It's closer to 14%. You don't add the gains, you multiply. 1×1.18×1.07×1.25×1.14=1.799.

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