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(wccftech) - AMD Allegedly Delaying Ryzen 4000 Series ‘Zen 3’ CPUs To 2021

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I am selfishly hoping that AMD will delay Zen 3 to 2021 so they can use the 5nm node. Ryzen 4000 is the last generation of CPU I will get out of my mainboard. If it can run 300mhz faster that would be pretty sweet.
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No real competition from Intel that would prevent people from buying 3000 series stock......no need to rush anything especially with the "XT" on the way. Plus Navi and XT should make a nice lineup for AMD until next Feb. or March 2021.
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Slightly worried that this is a sign of AMD realizing that they have such a substantial lead over Intel that they are willing to make do with incremental refreshes like the upcoming XT chips. Hope this isn't the route AMD is heading down towards.
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ive been holding on to my 4790k waiting for ryzen 4000, guess I will be waiting a little longer

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Slightly worried that this is a sign of AMD realizing that they have such a substantial lead over Intel that they are willing to make do with incremental refreshes like the upcoming XT chips. Hope this isn't the route AMD is heading down towards.
I honestly never expected anything less from AMD. I've told people for a very long time that AMD is nothing more than another "company" and they are in business to make profit. Milking is part of that process as we've learned from our favorite companies. If they do indeed plan to go down that route (or even try skipping down to 5nm) they could be making a big mistake. I think they should release the CPUs in late Q4 2020 and go into 2021 with a nice bang.

With that being said there's still tons of AMD CPUs flooding the market and selling very well. These are just rumors at the moment so we will have to wait to see what AMD says and does. I can see why AMD would wait, I just personally wouldn't wait since we've all seen how this movie plays out

(spoiler alert, it ends with AMD breaking away from the group, running towards the house with no electricity instead of the running car with a full tank of gas, then deciding to hide in the basement near the chainsaws and gardening tools....and worse of all they can't blame Intel or Nvidia this time around if things get bloody.).
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ive been holding on to my 4790k waiting for ryzen 4000, guess I will be waiting a little longer
It actually doesn't hurt you if so as AMD 5nm should be substantial jump on performance on paper. That and DDR5, PCIE 5.0 NVME drives should be major boast in performance. I am pretty sure PCIE5.0 will resolve the current issues with NVME not being faster in loading software/games in windows.

I don't see them delaying doesn't make sense unless you view Intel 7nm to be 2024 product. You got to keep on pushing as i don't see intel deliberately slowing down there catching process.

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I am pretty sure PCIE5.0 will resolve the current issues with NVME not being faster in loading software/games in windows.
Uhh... sorry but that is just wishful thinking. PCIe 5.0 will improve loading speeds in software/games, relative to PCIe 4.0, less than PCIe 4.0 improves loading times relative to PCIe 3.0. Raw bandwidth is not a limiting factor for loading times, it is all the CPU and memory stuff going on during a load. Even IOPS does not help load times very much.

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I don't see them delaying doesn't make sense unless you view Intel 7nm to be 2024 product. You got to keep on pushing as i don't see intel deliberately slowing down there catching process.
I was really surprised when I saw this rumor. It would be so tone deaf, they are supposed to be the consumer's friend but then sandbagging as soon as they have any advantage goes against this. Though I would have to forgive them, it is 2020 after all.

I too would not assume Intel will stay still, but they probably aren't going to have anything amazing before 2021 either so AMD is probably safe for now.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Asmodian View Post
Uhh... sorry but that is just wishful thinking. PCIe 5.0 will improve loading speeds in software/games, relative to PCIe 4.0, less than PCIe 4.0 improves loading times relative to PCIe 3.0. Raw bandwidth is not a limiting factor for loading times, it is all the CPU and memory stuff going on during a load. Even IOPS does not help load times very much.



I was really surprised when I saw this rumor. It would be so tone deaf, they are supposed to be the consumer's friend but then sandbagging as soon as they have any advantage goes against this. Though I would have to forgive them, it is 2020 after all.

I too would not assume Intel will stay still, but they probably aren't going to have anything amazing before 2021 either so AMD is probably safe for now.
I could be wishful thinking but it's really hard to predict thing with the bad global economy. AMD will be safe till 2021/2022. Have you looked at the Ryzen 4600u/4800u Laptops, They are no where to be seen and i can't find an good model for 4700u. They all either have crappy screen, cooling issues, soldered ram (so 8GB Ram) or bad keyboard. The 4800h/hs are also hit and miss products. The best one is like the zephyrs g14 but that's more than i want to pay for an mainly work pc. It's really not an great launch. I am more inclined to wait for ultrabook with Intel Tigerlake at this point. All i need is ultrabook with CPU and next gen IGP stronger than my current Alienware 15r2 (6700hq/970m 3GB) that can run multiple monitors (including 4k). It won't be gaming as I have the 3950X with 3080Ti/Big Navi for that.

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I am selfishly hoping that AMD will delay Zen 3 to 2021 so they can use the 5nm node. Ryzen 4000 is the last generation of CPU I will get out of my mainboard. If it can run 300mhz faster that would be pretty sweet.
I told ya guys if the stupid Zen 2 refreshes come out, its a waste of everybody time waiting, Zen 3 is sure delayed till 9-12 months after XT is released.


Worst, in H2 2021 when it is released, it will be on 7nm, not 5nm. Then you realised AMD is trolling us like how Intel does.

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