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post #21 of 200 (permalink) Old 06-22-2020, 06:22 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Sir Beregond View Post
If you rewatch the Turing announcement video, $999 was the starting price of the 2080 Ti too. I don't know about anyone else here, but I've never seen one below $1100.
This was always the case.
With high demand the vendors increased the price.
Remember when the mining craze was on, and the only place to buy a GPU in the US at msrp was through the manufacturers directly, and if you were very lucky to catch one through the stocks fluctuation. When 300$ cards started to sell for 500-600$. When RX 580 were showing up at 800$+ price tags, because you just couldn't find them anywhere.


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Looks like they are testing 3 cards right now.

24GB
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I can see the 10GB card 30% faster than 2080 Ti. If core count is the same and 320-Bit @ 18Gbps with much higher clock speeds. That would leave the 384-Bit card around 50% faster. Could just be 3080 is closer to 3080 Ti.

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Quote: Originally Posted by jamesch View Post
Videocardz thinks its the Ti, Wccftech thinks its the 3080. Since Wccftech writers are pretty much always trying to sell hype as a business model for more clicks, and they are pretty much always overestimating in their analysis consistently, I'm more likely to think this is the Ti or 3090 model. If the clockspeed reading is accurate its benched at under 2ghz. We know at least 2.2 stock is easily achievable at 7nm, so with some higher clocks this card could easily be 50% above 2080 Ti.
I tend to believe this is the RTX 3080, which is already based on the high end GA102 cores.


Don't forget there is a massive die shrink and the amount of transistors could increase significantly on this chip despite it being smaller.

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I tend to believe this is the RTX 3080, which is already based on the high end GA102 cores.


Don't forget there is a massive die shrink and the amount of transistors could increase significantly on this chip despite it being smaller.
Well that is true for AMD. Nvidia already increased transistor count with Turing by going extremely large die. Only way we will see the full die shrink benefits is if Ampere is also just as big which I dont think its the case. Even 600mm2 die would cost north of $250 alone. What we will see is 3080 for $700 which is faster than 2080 Ti. At least this time we get more performance for less money. Ti will probably see have over $1000 price tag.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Defoler View Post
This was always the case.
With high demand the vendors increased the price.
Remember when the mining craze was on, and the only place to buy a GPU in the US at msrp was through the manufacturers directly, and if you were very lucky to catch one through the stocks fluctuation. When 300$ cards started to sell for 500-600$. When RX 580 were showing up at 800$+ price tags, because you just couldn't find them anywhere.
Turing sales were labelled "disappointing" by nvidia themselves. What high demand are you talking about here?
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Turing sales were labelled "disappointing" by nvidia themselves. What high demand are you talking about here?
Initially yes but they recovered quickly. Also even though they sold less, revenue was about the same relative to Pascal. Sure it did not match mining craze revenue but it did pre-mining craze revenue.

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Turing sales were labelled "disappointing" by nvidia themselves. What high demand are you talking about here?
Disappointing compared to the previous quarter due to crypto. Aside from that Turing's launch quarter revenue went up by 45% compared to Pascal launch quarter. There is a larger demend for Turing Geforce cards compared to previous generations since they are targeting three markets. Deep learning, studios and gaming.
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Turing sales were labelled "disappointing" by nvidia themselves. What high demand are you talking about here?
Although the initial demand was lower than what Nvidia expected, the market was back to normal.

But the real silver lining was, as per Nvidia's own admission 90% of the consumers opting to buy the more expensive model. This only indicates to Nvidia that there is a market for $1000 cards and the next launch is going to prove just that. Now it's only how they "market" the card at those prices.

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Clocks look low. This could be a downclocked Ti engineering sample.

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