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post #11 of 86 (permalink) Old 07-03-2017, 12:50 PM - Thread Starter
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Thanks guys! It was Breeze's idea to put it there.

We could always do a Team Power Points competition, as we are reasonably close to the next team in the ranking.

DDR2 Frequency 1st Place = 910.1MHz DDR (1820.2MHz) - http://hwbot.org/submission/3589779

Reference Frequency 10th Place = 711.18MHz - https://hwbot.org/submission/3978447_


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Hwbot x256 render comp? Globals for all..?


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Hwbot x256 render comp? Globals for all..?

Ooooh, and it would definitely help get OCN back onto the map with things. And depending on things, one could also have a few categories to compete in with it, so that those who are using older hardware can compete without being slaughtered by those with the newest stuff.

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See how this hits you:

 

 

 *Hwbot 265x render efficiency comp*

 

 

Jist:  Submit both 1080 & 4k run for x265 bench, to compete for best efficiency in class. Your entered score/#cores = efficiency score, to determine ranking for the competition.

 

Rules:

1. Submit results for only one cooling bracket. AMD + Intel compete together.

2. Enter in as many core brackets as you like (physical # of cores, no disabling allowed).

3. Valid submissions requirements:

     A. Use competition background.

     B. Provide hwbot link, of validation.

4. To have a valid final score at competition close, you must; Have entered scores for both 1080 and 4k + made a single submission prior to final day of competition (no joining the comp on closing day)

 

 

*sample sub table for 1080*

 

 

 

 

Let me know what you think. Please take a moment to examine your own 1080/4k scores using the formula (score/#cores). Id like to hear ideas/opinions on the proposed scoring method. My thought was to provide incentive to tweak for better scores..not just OC. Either way this comp would rack up the globals for OCN in a huge way.

 

ie - 36.7 Global Points is great for 2 subs on AIO at low clocks..

45.4fps @ 1080p _ 5820k @ 4.4

10.7fps @ 4k _ 5820k @ 4.4



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X265 could be good, I've only ran it once briefly for last years country cup. A lot of global's to be had there.

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That's a nicely though out idea! Some guys were talking about their efficiency being a bit low in x264, so it might be interesting to see if people can figure out what's holding them back.

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Hwbot 265x would be AWESOME, I live this idea! This would be perfect since like you said it now carries global and its basically unknown to many people. So its the perfect bench for a competition like this to force everyone to learn the bench and optimize the score.

The only question I have is with scoring. I need to look more into the method you devised and also check out potential other scoring methods. Another popular scoring method used in the past is score divided by core count. I will do a bunch of calculations based on some sample submissions to see how your method works. We need to make sure there are no "holes" in the scoring method. Good work man, killer idea thumb.gif

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  I think youre right on the scoring.. it would need to be (score/#cores). I checked some of my own scores and the spread can be too far for different gen CPU. Also.. AMD is very efficient if you compare clock speed lolz. A bit too efficient. :)

 

*i fixed the verbage above regarding scoring.

 

Finding some efficiency on this bench isnt as hard as others. Between teammates .. you want to check that tiny 'overkill' box and make sure core voltages are spot on.. if a core is a bit out of sync the overkill mode doesnt provide that much boost in score. OS prep for the bench is pretty much key from my experience.



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So I have been thinking a bit the last couple of days about the OCN comp we have been discussing.

Timeframe wise, January would be a good option.

Countrycup and Cheapazz should be finished.

Divisions shouldn't start for some time in 2018. Probably half January, or beginning of February.

As I think it is important to get the whole benching community/team involved I suggest 2 different brackets. To give the guys on ambient cooling a fair fight aswel.

2 stages of 2D, 2 stages of 3D.

For the "Extreme" bracket all cooling is allowed.

For the "Ambient" bracket only Air and/or Water. No chillers/peltier. So CLC's, custom loops, aircoolers.
We could also make RealTemp a mandatory program in the screenshots. To eliminate the "advantage" some of the northerners have. By enforcing a minimum of +20C idle temp.

For points, only your best 3 results count. To eliminate ties:

Points: 25-20-16-13-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Furthermore; by only letting count 3/4 benches for points, one could gamble to completely forgo 1 of the stages, if one doesn't have the required hardware or is a completely new to a certain benchmark. But by doing so, you allow the other contenders a potential higher spot in one of the benchmarks, and could cost you the win. I think this could create an awesome dynamic into the mix.

Now to the juicy details; what benches!?

To keep things easier for the ones who will be moderating the thread/ both leagues will use the same benches.

For 2D:

As previously mentioned;

HWbot x265. New
Fairly "fresh" benchmark. So lots to learn for most people's. And globals to be caught! thumb.gif

3DMark 11 Physics. Old
A personal favorite for me. A bench seldom done, so also lots to learn in terms of efficiency. We could limit it to 6Ghz for extreme and 5Ghz for ambient for example. I know on hwbot freq lock benches are more likely to be cheated on. BUT I expect nothing but FairPlay from our own team/platform OCN as a whole.
If not, well one will probably face consequences.

As a substitute for 3DMark Physics,

SuperPi 32m. Best bench of all, no explanation needed biggrin.gif we could also frequency lock this to 6 and 5Ghz

3D:

Unigine Superposition. New
Solely because afaik it relies 100% on GPU. Don't matter if you rock a 18core or dual core.

3DMark Vantage.
Or this isn't old enough, I'm not sure. We could do 11 too, but I feel that's kinda meh if we go for Physics in the 2D part.


Now the other juicy part! Hardware!

I suggest atleast for the 3D "legacy" benchmark a "cheap as a burger and beer card, so you can brutalize the thing* -mllrkllr88 - 2017
Like cheapazz chips, incentivizes hard modding. But on a truelly cheapo GPU. Something like 8800 or 9800.
Not even sure if they run the bench I suggested. So we could change that up and pick a suitable 3DMark version according to the era the card was from.

For superposition, I'm up for suggestions.
We could do something like 10 series, or 9 series. Especially 9 series are very affordable nowadays.

For 2D, I'm not too sure. Maybe quad Processors For 265 atleast. skylake/Kabylake/Kabylake-X. This is a lot harder to tackle.

We could also devide the scores by cores. Not sure if that's fair. I know hwbot does it sometimes for XTU. But makes HT mandatory. And could possibly mean a dual core scores the absolute best. Like with decided XTU. So I'm not sure how to tackle this one.


Suggestions/additions etc are welcome.
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