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post #271 of 8210 (permalink) Old 01-06-2014, 01:12 PM
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My bet is it's probably an IPS monitor. check out their existing PB278Q monitor. I bet you they literally slapped in a G-Sync module and OC'd it to 120hz and called it a PG278Q

https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors_Projectors/PB278Q#specifications

If that's the case, then it may be an IPS monitor.

Really hope you are right. This is a very nice deal if you are.

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Judging by most Asus pricing street price should be a little lower after a few weeks. Maybe 650-700 on a good day.

Ive never used a Asus TN panel are they really that bad?

If you care about color reproduction they are bad. But if you haven't sit in front of an IPS/VA/OLED panel before you won't know what you are missing. It just becomes apparent once you do sit in front of one.

Other than that Asus makes really good TN panels and they along with Benq make the best 120+ hz TN displays.

$800 is too much for my tastes but noone until now made a TN panel with a resolution above 1080p so there is value in this display especially since it has some very thin bezels and a fully modifiable VESA stand. Add in the premium for having the first iteration of gsync the price is reasonable if it is within your budget.
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Some people need to learn how to sit in front of their monitor when gaming. rolleyes.gif

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120 Hz does nothing for anyone's performance in a game (unless you are one of the people who gets motion sickness without 120 Hz).

It's all a placebo effect.

I've used 120 Hz screens. They're nice. Much nicer than 60 Hz. But the color shift/junk viewing angles from being TN is just god awful and I can't stand it - gaming or otherwise.
You really look silly trying to insist that 120hz is all placebo effect. You're not the target market and you personally do not benefit from it for your use cases. Leave it at that.

Lots of FPS gamers see performance benefits from playing with higher refresh rates with the FPS to make use of it.
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Some people need to learn how to sit in front of their monitor when gaming. rolleyes.gif

At 28" it doesn't matter - noticeable color shift is unavoidable

At 24" you can already see it at the corners of your screen in particular but you can ignore it without much trouble. Not true at 28".

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Really hope you are right. This is a very nice deal if you are.
I am more pessimistic, but I am hoping he's right too.

1ms on an IPS panel is extremely hard; but it's not impossible if you bypass the GtG in total darkness via a strobe backlight.

1ms persistence on a 120Hz refresh cycle (1/120sec is 8.3ms) = means ~1ms strobe + ~7ms total darkness. As long as you fit GtG into that hidden 7ms, it's a done deal.

But I'm not 100% sure. Even with a strobe backlight, a 1ms IPS would be a miracle; the worst/slowest GtG must have most of it actual measured GtG fit completely within 7ms, in order to make the 1ms claim possible via the strobe backlight GtG-bypassing technique.

If I had to bet money, it's a TN, but this is a situation where I hope I am wrong thumb.gif
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You really look silly trying to insist that 120hz is all placebo effect. You're not the target market and you personally do not benefit from it for your use cases. Leave it at that.

Lots of FPS gamers see performance benefits from playing with higher refresh rates with the FPS to make use of it.

And lots of sick people get healed by taking placebos too. rolleyes.gif

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I had expected a much more premium price. Not bad at all considering it is indeed a 4K monitor. I'm expecting a 4K push faster than expected considering this quick transition to 4K and quick drop in prices for 4K panels.

It has a 1ms response time and a 120Hz refresh rate, that's why it's a TN Panel. If you wanted an IPS panel, you'd have to pay more and sacrifice the response time. Not worth considering this is a gaming panel.

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I feel like if it were an IPS panel, it would have been a bullet point. sadsmiley.gif

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And lots of sick people get healed by taking placebos too. rolleyes.gif

120Hz isn't a placebo. And 120Hz strobed most definitely isn't a placebo. Keep your blurry 60Hz if you're happy with it, there are plenty of people, like me who won't go back to 60Hz after using 120Hz. Personally, I don't see how people on OCN can use IPS/PLS/60Hz monitors for gaming. I am perfectly fine with my TN and don't find any problems with the colors on my monitor.

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