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post #361 of 8210 (permalink) Old 01-06-2014, 03:46 PM
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May have to replace my overlord tempest monitor 1440p @120hz with this smile.gif

Nah, you don't want to trade a 120hz IPS for a 120hz TN monitor. Whatever people say about them not being as good as real gaming 120hz monitors, it's just not worth losing the IPS.

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May have to replace my overlord tempest monitor 1440p @120hz with this smile.gif

That's probably the worst idea in this thread IMO.

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Just to be clear:

I believe that some people perform better in FPS games on 120 Hz vs 60 Hz

I do not believe that the reason for that is the faster response times of 120 Hz panels, since the difference between 60 and 120 Hz panels is small relative to normal human reaction time.

There is no evidence out there which supports anything else. In fact, I believe there was an article (can't remember if I saw on OCN) that, though using a very small sample size, showed people performing more or less exactly the same on 120 Hz vs 60 Hz.

Don't buy the marketing hype around 120 Hz. It looks smoother. A lot smoother. That's it.
You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

The advantage gained is not because the panel response time is 'better', it's because instead of being pretty overwhelmed with visual noise during extremely fast movement/twitch aiming you see cleaner motion that is easier for your brain to quickly process as "hey, that is a distinguishable object streaking across my screen with this particular trajectory", vs "er maybe that was an enemy". Tada, that's a response time improvement for your brain to process that motion and tell your hand to accurately click onto bad guys.

I wouldn't expect a random study without intelligently chosen titles, players and situations to show much of anything. To most people it's just going to look nice.
I've seen plenty of direct evidence on top of my personal experience that it indeed is a noticeable improvement for the cases where it matters.

1v1 mge mod playing scout in TF2 is a pretty good test case, or any game where rocket jumping is a thing.

Again, you as a typical gamer would derive little benefit other than looks. Most people won't unless they play certain games and at a certain level where fast movements and tracking are common.
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That's probably the worst idea in this thread IMO.

No, Its a good idear sell me yours, and buy the gimmicky thing. I would love a 27 1440 ips 120, gysnc no need, i can adjust my own setting's.

Overlord monitors, will look into this thank you, + i dont have to stay with nvidia as well.

Question why do big firms, give us crap, ? TN

Is it because ony 1% of the pop, need 120 hz + so we end up with 10 year old tech on a 1440 @120hz

Is TN the only tech to give us the speed - blur ?
Will Oled help us. ?

?? LOL.
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No good idear sell my yours, and buy the gimmicky thing. I would love a 27 1440 ips 120, gysnc no need, i can adjust my own setting's.

Overlord monitors, will look into this thank you, + i dont have to stay with nvidia as well.

Question why do big firms, give us crap, ? TN

Is it because ony 1% of the pop, need 120 hz + so we end up with 10 year old tech on a 1440 @120hz

Is TN the only tech to give us the speed - blur ?
Will Oled help us. ?

?? LOL.
Now my head hurts.

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You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

The advantage gained is not because the panel response time is 'better', it's because instead of being pretty overwhelmed with visual noise during extremely fast movement/twitch aiming you see cleaner motion that is easier for your brain to quickly process as "hey, that is a distinguishable object streaking across my screen with this particular trajectory", vs "er maybe that was an enemy". Tada, that's a response time improvement for your brain to process that motion and tell your hand to accurately click onto bad guys.

I wouldn't expect a random study without intelligently chosen titles, players and situations to show much of anything. To most people it's just going to look nice.
I've seen plenty of direct evidence on top of my personal experience that it indeed is a noticeable improvement for the cases where it matters.

1v1 mge mod playing scout in TF2 is a pretty good test case, or any game where rocket jumping is a thing.

Again, you as a typical gamer would derive little benefit other than looks. Most people won't unless they play certain games and at a certain level where fast movements and tracking are common.

Get back to me when you can get some data to back this up. Till then, I will leave it with a simple "this is placebo effect, and you have nothing but theorycrafting to show otherwise".

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I'm a 3.5+ k/d player and I definitely improved a bit with 120Hz strobed and can easily find situations where I got a kill because I was using a 120hz strobed monitor. I guess bad players don't notice a difference because they struggle to get kills anyway.

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I am with Rob in that a good, well-calibrated TN panel is A-OK for gaming.

I am more than satisfied with how my U2713hm games, though.

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