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post #371 of 8210 (permalink) Old 01-06-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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Drool, smile.gifdrool.gif It can swivel . Carnt wait to see the price. For this TN panel.+ locked to gforce. Whats AMD got. peeps .?
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I'm a 3.5+ k/d player and I definitely improved a bit with 120Hz strobed and can easily find situations where I got a kill because I was using a 120hz strobed monitor. I guess bad players don't notice a difference because they struggle to get kills anyway.
Same here. I made a VERY large jump coming from consoles straight into 144hz and it took me a few weeks to adjust. I've also noticed mouse movements are slightly smoother in hectic situations in 120/144hz vs 60hz.
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Just to be clear:

I believe that some people perform better in FPS games on 120 Hz vs 60 Hz

I do not believe that the reason for that is the faster response times of 120 Hz panels, since the difference between 60 and 120 Hz panels is small relative to normal human reaction time.

There is no evidence out there which supports anything else. In fact, I believe there was an article (can't remember if I saw on OCN) that, though using a very small sample size, showed people performing more or less exactly the same on 120 Hz vs 60 Hz.

Don't buy the marketing hype around 120 Hz. It looks smoother. A lot smoother. That's it.
You're actually right. 120hz will NOT make you a better player. A good player can do just as well if not better on 60hz. 120Hz can however enhance whatever skill is already there.
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Well I was going to pick up one of the new Pro Art 1440p Asus monitors but this is way too tempting, currently gaming on a Asus PB278Q and the colour reproduction looks like crap compared to my 1080p Asus pro arts even after spending lots of time trying to calibrate it so jumping to this monitor and using the PB278Q as my portrait shouldn't be a big step down in terms of colours really.

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Definitely ditching my Korean IPS picking up 3 of these for surround.
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No, Its a good idear sell me yours, and buy the gimmicky thing. I would love a 27 1440 ips 120, gysnc no need, i can adjust my own setting's.

Overlord monitors, will look into this thank you, + i dont have to stay with nvidia as well.

Question why do big firms, give us crap, ? TN

Is it because ony 1% of the pop, need 120 hz + so we end up with 10 year old tech on a 1440 @120hz

Is TN the only tech to give us the speed - blur ?
Will Oled help us. ?

?? LOL.

1% of the population only requires 120hz? Where did you invent that number from? For fast moving games, 120hz is a huge improvement over 60hz. 120 and 144hz monitors are TN panels because apparently there are challenges getting 120hz IPS panels (not to mention the cost).

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I am curious to see what other models get announced. Philips has already shown there 27" 1920x1080 model. Hopefully someone announces a IPS 27" 1440 model, even if it is 60hz. If not, i will be buying this guy, and comparing it to my VP2770 and my Asus PB278Q.

More than likely I will give my VP2770 or PB278Q to my brother and then just hang on to the other one incase something happens, but i really want to get a g-sync monitor.

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Plenty of great stuff coming this year in monitors. I'll probably wait it out until the dust is settled before I buy my next monitor. While [email protected] Hz sounds nice, an 800$ TN does not. There's plenty of 4K goodness coming too, and with G-Sync/FreeSync in the horizon, it's probably better to wait and see before jumping on the first shiny new display entering the market.

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I don't necessarily care that it's a TN panel myself, but the thought of 120Hz, G-Sync, AND 1440p has me excited. Hopefully it's a PWM free backlighting as well.

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$800 is still a lot of money.

In the other side this monitor adds 1440p and G-Sync to those people that must games @ 120Hz. Either way its a upgrade. Someday we will get the ideal monitor.

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Get back to me when you can get some data to back this up. Till then, I will leave it with a simple "this is placebo effect, and you have nothing but theorycrafting to show otherwise".
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You are making the bold claim that it is placebo in the face of specific explanations about how it achieves those improvements. Why is it really so hard to believe that smooth motion would make tracking fast moving enemies much easier during your own fast movements? It's not difficult to understand. Do you disagree that smooth motion is easier to see instead of jerky motion?

The gaming communities where this is an improvement aren't out making studies as it's not even debated. It's a night and day difference. Here's from a quick scour of threads where people are asking if 120hz monitors are worth it.
quakelive is one of the few games that consistently tracks accuracy stats:
"I think the best way to convince you is telling you that I got the XL2420T and my aim got up 7% in LG and rail. Simple as that, 120Hz make a difference for QL."

"LG fights. It becomes easier to track a dodging opponent, since the visuals are smoother, obviously.
And of course overall gameplay is just way more enjoyable.
My lg and rail instantly improved by at least 5%, just to give you a general idea how much of a difference it makes."

TF2 6v6 competitive:
"well my scout partner does about 1500 more damage since he got it so there's that"

"a 120hz monitor will make it easier to track people, however you will still need to be able to hit them after you track them...

it will make it easier to hit your shots, assuming you CAN hit them
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"Actually I'd say 120hz is the only thing that almost guarantees some performance improvement after a short time for money.

I had to switch back to 60hz for like the last month and I can't hit half the shots I know I could with 120hz just because I literally can't see clearly enough to hit them, even after I got used to 60hz again. Scout's are almost invisible unless they're moving in straight lines. It's crazy."

You probably don't think lightboost 120hz is an improvement over non-lightboost 120hz either, I'm sure.

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60hz monitor: beating a player consistently 20-15/20-17 range. Once I got a 120hz monitor I beat them 20-6, 20-8 while feeling like I was cheating because it was suddenly so much easier to track their motion. That's some nice placebo.

Anyway it's interesting that they're going to do a 1440p 120hz monitor, although I don't know how much demand there is for higher resolution when those that get those monitors usually want to get as much FPS as possible. smile.gif
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