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Yup. They always say "vote with your wallet" and that's what I'm doing. I'll never pay this much for an IPS monitor ever again either.
Yeah the "IPS master race" thing going on today is annoying. It's less common here on OCN since users here are generally a bit more knowledgeable than average or at least willing to pick up knowledge. I have no experience with the TN panel used in this Dell monitor, but based on comparisons from CallsignVega and s1rrah, IPS is barely any better. I think both IPS and TN are crap for entertainment purposes due to the similarly poor contrast and blacks. The exception being competitive gaming of course, where the responsiveness/extremely low lag of TN and high refresh rate AHVA monitors comes in handy. But at these prices, these 27" 1440p 144 Hz VRR monitors should be using really nice SPVA panels with at least 3000:1 static contrast, and perhaps with full-array LED backlighting. But we really need OLED to come in and wash away all this LCD crap.
I think Did you mean AMVA? AHVA is an IPS type panel with the same contrast pixel response and glow limitations.

IPS was great with the TW polarizers they used to have. It reduces or removed almost all glow from the screen. Contrast was still no great, but it was more than acceptable.

VA panels still need to get faster to compete on a larger scale(and this is still the panel type I am hoping will show the most improvement and become more standard). Faster panels without requiring overdrive would be that much better. Even the fastest TN panels have to use overdrive to get this speed and that creates artifacts.

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I think Did you mean AMVA? AHVA is an IPS type panel with the same contrast pixel response and glow limitations.

IPS was great with the TW polarizers they used to have. It reduces or removed almost all glow from the screen. Contrast was still no great, but it was more than acceptable.

VA panels still need to get faster to compete on a larger scale(and this is still the panel type I am hoping will show the most improvement and become more standard). Faster panels without requiring overdrive would be that much better. Even the fastest TN panels have to use overdrive to get this speed and that creates artifacts.

No I meant AHVA (PG279Q, MG279Q, XB270HU specifically) since these monitors are great for competitive fast/twitch gaming. Although as far as AMVA goes, I look forward to TFTCentral's review of the BenQ XR3501.

I'd much rather have OLED improve and wipe LCD off the face of the planet entirely. LCD is inherently limited and flawed in comparison.

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No I meant AHVA (PG279Q, MG279Q, XB270HU specifically) since these monitors are great for competitive fast/twitch gaming. Although as far as AMVA goes, I look forward to TFTCentral's review of the BenQ XR3501.

I'd much rather have OLED improve and wipe LCD off the face of the planet entirely. LCD is inherently limited and flawed in comparison.
At least you still have backlight strobe in the mean time. It greatly improves motion on LCD panels that support it.

OLED or similar will be great for sure(love the viewing angles on those things and the black levels that are actually black).

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I think Did you mean AMVA? AHVA is an IPS type panel with the same contrast pixel response and glow limitations.

IPS was great with the TW polarizers they used to have. It reduces or removed almost all glow from the screen. Contrast was still no great, but it was more than acceptable.

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No I meant AHVA (PG279Q, MG279Q, XB270HU specifically) since these monitors are great for competitive fast/twitch gaming. Although as far as AMVA goes, I look forward to TFTCentral's review of the BenQ XR3501.

I'd much rather have OLED improve and wipe LCD off the face of the planet entirely. LCD is inherently limited and flawed in comparison.

Unfortunately, true picture quality isn't everything for manufacturers. Heck, LCDs wiped out plasmas and other promising technologies like Canon's SED, and Sony's FED and Direct LED displays just because the LCD industry is so well established.

I hope OLEDs come soon, but I have a feeling we'll be stuck with LCDs for awhile.

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Been lurking here at Overclock for awhile, mostly in the PG279Q thread, but I ultimately decided to go with the TN Dell panel since I mostly play FPS titles and already have a second ultrawide IPS monitor for real work.

It's interesting that Dell CS said it wasn't available yet, since I just received my S2716DG via FedEx this morning (in the US)! Ordered it last Friday via this page: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=210-AGJR , and it delivered today.

I am hoping that this will be a higher-quality PG278Q without all the scary QC issues. 3-year advanced exchange warranty is also a nice addition, along with the HDMI port.

I'll post some pictures once I'm back home, and hopefully positive impressions. This is my first high-refresh rate monitor, too, so if there's something you guys would like me to try testing out, just let me know.
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Been lurking here at Overclock for awhile, mostly in the PG279Q thread, but I ultimately decided to go with the TN Dell panel since I mostly play FPS titles and already have a second ultrawide IPS monitor for real work.

It's interesting that Dell CS said it wasn't available yet, since I just received my S2716DG via FedEx this morning (in the US)! Ordered it last Friday via this page: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=210-AGJR , and it delivered today.

I am hoping that this will be a higher-quality PG278Q without all the scary QC issues. 3-year advanced exchange warranty is also a nice addition, along with the HDMI port.

I'll post some pictures once I'm back home, and hopefully positive impressions. This is my first high-refresh rate monitor, too, so if there's something you guys would like me to try testing out, just let me know.


That is good news. Mind you I called Dell Canada. They may be somewhat behind on it. I noticed on the link you provided the ship date is listed as November 10th. They might want to update that.

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That is good news. Mind you I called Dell Canada. They may be somewhat behind on it. I noticed on the link you provided the ship date is listed as November 10th. They might want to update that.

Ah that's true, Dell Canada and US could be different. I also noticed today that it's now available for preorder in the US through Newegg, with an estimated release of 10/27. Could be a better option for many if they qualify for no tax in their state.
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I Wouldave added this to my compare list for what I'll upgrade too next month, but the lack of ULMB has me passing, unless they just arent announcing it.
I'm sure it will be a good monitor, and I may end up hating ulmb, but I at least wanna have it to try it out ya know frown.gif


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