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post #21 of 5737 (permalink) Old 10-20-2015, 01:21 PM
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I Wouldave added this to my compare list for what I'll upgrade too next month, but the lack of ULMB has me passing, unless they just arent announcing it.
I'm sure it will be a good monitor, and I may end up hating ulmb, but I at least wanna have it to try it out ya know frown.gif

Funny you mention that; I've been reading through the manual before heading home, and it does have ULMB support for 85, 100, and 120 Hz. This is with G-SYNC disabled, according to the manual.

http://downloads.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_display_projector/esuprt_Display/dell-s2716dg-monitor_User%27s%20Guide_en-us.pdf
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Funny you mention that; I've been reading through the manual before heading home, and it does have ULMB support for 85, 100, and 120 Hz. This is with G-SYNC disabled, according to the manual.

http://downloads.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_display_projector/esuprt_Display/dell-s2716dg-monitor_User%27s%20Guide_en-us.pdf

+rep for that. Dunno why I didn't bother to look in the manual.
Wonder why they don't say it supports ULMB on the product page or in the announcements.


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So, I finally got a chance to unpack and try out the monitor, and things are looking promising so far. The box arrived in great shape, and I like the understated, professional look of the monitor a lot. You wouldn't be able to tell that it's a gaming monitor, except for the (removable) NVIDIA G-Sync sticker on the monitor stand's base.




Also, most importantly, there are no dead or stuck pixels on my screen. Panel uniformity seems decent for a TN, but there is the obvious TN gradient where the top and bottom have differing brightness. This is not really noticeable in-game, however. I've attached some images of the panel for gray/red/blue/green/black backgrounds so you can judge yourselves.







The AG coating is on the aggressive side, and I would say it's on-par with my LG 34UM95. On solid whties, you get a little of the AG sparkle. Here's a panel reflection shot to get an idea of the AG strength.



As far as using the monitor, G-Sync works great in 144 Hz. There was no problem connecting it and getting it up and running with my 980 Ti. I also tried out ULMB in 120 Hz (G-Sync disabled), and it also works fine, although it of course dims the screen significantly. It allows you to vary the pulse width of the ULMB mode as well, but I kept it at the default setting of 100.



There does seem to be a slight difference between 144 Hz G-Sync and 120 Hz ULMB modes, which is most visible to me when I move the Windows cursor against a dark background. In-game (CSGO), I can't really tell if there's much benefit, but I honestly haven't used either mode long enough to say for sure. Any difference in smoothness between 120 and 144 Hz isn't immediately noticeable to me.

The HDMI port also works perfectly, so anyone holding out on the PG278Q for an HDMI port will be happy. It recognizes my PS4 without any issues.



Overall, the monitor seems to be working really well thus far, and hopefully it's a sign that the QC problems with the PG278Q are not going to resurface with Dell.

The only issue I've encountered is not even with the monitor, but the 980 Ti, which seems to run at high clock speeds when the refresh rate is set to 144 Hz, even on the Windows desktop. When I reduce the refresh rate to 120 Hz, it goes back down to normal, idle clocks. For now, I've just left it at 120 Hz to avoid chewing up energy in desktop mode and boost it to 144 Hz before I'm about to game. If anyone has a solution to this, I'd love to hear it!
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Thanks for the review. Looks very promising. Looks like Dell has released a solid competitor to the swift.

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Hmm... based on your pictures I think I'm glad I went with IPS instead, to avoid that gradient. Sucks that if you want 2560 x 1440 with variable refresh rate, you have to choose between TN gradient and IPS glow.

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Hmm... based on your pictures I think I'm glad I went with IPS instead, to avoid that gradient. Sucks that if you want 2560 x 1440 with variable refresh rate, you have to choose between TN gradient and IPS glow.

Yeah, I can't go back to using TN for general desktop work after using VA and IPS for so many years. When gaming, I'm lucky that I'm not sensitive to the gradient at all, so this monitor pairs very nicely for me with an IPS for desktop work. I would say that if you can only have one monitor for everything, TN is a tough choice to live with, and it could be worth trying the IPS lottery with ASUS and Acer given the equivalent pricing.

Edit: Actually, something interesting is the pricing for the Dell in the UK is only 600 GBP, which is the same as the TN PG278Q there. That seems more reasonable compared to the US pricing of $800 for the Dell and $670 for the PG278Q.
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Yeah, I can't go back to using TN for general desktop work after using VA and IPS for so many years. When gaming, I'm lucky that I'm not sensitive to the gradient at all, so this monitor pairs very nicely for me with an IPS for desktop work. I would say that if you can only have one monitor for everything, TN is a tough choice to live with, and it could be worth trying the IPS lottery with ASUS and Acer given the equivalent pricing.

Edit: Actually, something interesting is the pricing for the Dell in the UK is only 600 GBP, which is the same as the TN PG278Q there. That seems more reasonable compared to the US pricing of $800 for the Dell and $670 for the PG278Q.
The transition from VA back to TN was quite jarring for sure. I think your brain just starts to adjust. I still have those times that I look at it and say damn you look darker on top and it sucks. On the other hand, I look at my VA and say damn you are slow.

I sure hope some faster VA panels that do not get fast with excessive overdrive come out soon. I was shocked that on some color transitions a BL3200PT was slower than a 245T from Samsung(just because of how old it is). Even the lightening of color while in motion(scrolling text or moving winamp over) was kind of distracting at times(the 245 rarely had that[so lets say skyrim look better on it than the 3200PT], but it still had its fair share of overdrive artifacts).

On the IPS side. it is very hard to get used to the glow(and how noticeable it is on dark images or games). Why did they ever get rid of that TW polarizer on these things. Ohh right price(and profit margin). I would gladly pay an extra 50-100 just for less glow.


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The transition from VA back to TN was quite jarring for sure. I think your brain just starts to adjust. I still have those times that I look at it and say damn you look darker on top and it sucks. On the other hand, I look at my VA and say damn you are slow.

I just had a stint with a VA for the first time. Blacks were awesome, but as you said its so slow, especially when im used to 144hz 1ms TN. I couldn't in no way get used to it, the smearing of darker shades was so painful to look at. I'm sure if i had the 120hz Eizo VA i would be able to use that comfortably enough, but its pricey, and isn't the greatest when it comes to getting a good sample or a bad one.

Really wish they had a 1440p 144hz VA out, even if it only has 2000:1 contrast, i'll have no problem with it.

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The transition from VA back to TN was quite jarring for sure. I think your brain just starts to adjust. I still have those times that I look at it and say damn you look darker on top and it sucks. On the other hand, I look at my VA and say damn you are slow.

I just had a stint with a VA for the first time. Blacks were awesome, but as you said its so slow, especially when im used to 144hz 1ms TN. I couldn't in no way get used to it, the smearing of darker shades was so painful to look at. I'm sure if i had the 120hz Eizo VA i would be able to use that comfortably enough, but its pricey, and isn't the greatest when it comes to getting a good sample or a bad one.

Really wish they had a 1440p 144hz VA out, even if it only has 2000:1 contrast, i'll have no problem with it.

Ya, my dream (LCD) monitor is a 1440p 96hz+ VA monitor with an RGB backlight and Eizo's backlight strobing + overdrive tech... for $400 biggrin.gif

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Thanks a lot for the info and pics abcsoup, looks great. This monitor is definitely at the top of the list for my PC upgrade next year, won't be touching the IPS screens with all the issues they've been having. Hopefully your sample is a good indication of Dell's quality control on these. Will be nice to have a good responsive screen again for gaming, i'm still using a 2707WFP but haven't been gaming as much as I would have liked the last few years so it has been fine for desktop use.
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