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post #2981 of 3241 (permalink) Old 04-05-2019, 12:44 AM
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It looks like this on my pg27uq (pls see the pics attached). It’s not as super obvious as yours, but still very noticeable. If you think this is bad, check out this video: https://youtu.be/E3Bf3mq1Or8. My monitor looks like a complete mess running it. Feels bad spending $3000 on this man. Should have bought a va tv.
Thank you so much for this. This is miles better than mine. Yes i know what you mean with the video that you posted. I watched something similar ( night in vegas with hdr) and it was an absolute disaster. Thinking of getting the Asus now... Is the sounnd from the fan that terrrible?

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It looks like this on my pg27uq (pls see the pics attached). It’s not as super obvious as yours, but still very noticeable. If you think this is bad, check out this video: https://youtu.be/E3Bf3mq1Or8. My monitor looks like a complete mess running it. Feels bad spending $3000 on this man. Should have bought a va tv.
Thank you so much for this. This is miles better than mine. Yes i know what you mean with the video that you posted. I watched something similar ( night in vegas with hdr) and it was an absolute disaster. Thinking of getting the Asus now... Is the sounnd from the fan that terrrible?
I don’t think the fan makes any noise at all lol but i wear headphone and my room is not exactly quiet so I’m not sure (though I did put my ears near the back of the monitor and heard nothing).

The backlight bleed is pretty bad though (see pics), and I have exchanged once. Both the old and new monitor have backlight bleed and dead/stuck pixels. I’m asking Asus to give me a 3rd one and if it is still like this then I will ask them to return my money
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I don’t think the fan makes any noise at all lol but i wear headphone and my room is not exactly quiet so I’m not sure (though I did put my ears near the back of the monitor and heard nothing).

The backlight bleed is pretty bad though (see pics), and I have exchanged once. Both the old and new monitor have backlight bleed and dead/stuck pixels. I’m asking Asus to give me a 3rd one and if it is still like this then I will ask them to return my money
That picture looks like mostly IPS glow. Bleed would manifest as like patches of usually a yellowish color that dont change with head movement. For example if you view the monitor on a black screen from an extreme angle they would still be visible- and they are usually at the edges (typically from the bezel being fastened too tightly.

Does turning on FALD eliminate it?

Also is it possible to take a picture of your dead pixel(s)?
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I don’t think the fan makes any noise at all lol but i wear headphone and my room is not exactly quiet so I’m not sure (though I did put my ears near the back of the monitor and heard nothing).

The backlight bleed is pretty bad though (see pics), and I have exchanged once. Both the old and new monitor have backlight bleed and dead/stuck pixels. I’m asking Asus to give me a 3rd one and if it is still like this then I will ask them to return my money
That picture looks like mostly IPS glow. Bleed would manifest as like patches of usually a yellowish color that dont change with head movement. For example if you view the monitor on a black screen from an extreme angle they would still be visible- and they are usually at the edges (typically from the bezel being fastened too tightly.

Does turning on FALD eliminate it?

Also is it possible to take a picture of your dead pixel(s)?
Attached is a picture with fald turned on. Most of the glow/blb are gone but the monitor does not look completely black. The thing is, in real contents, when bright objects are near edges or corners of the monitor, fald cannot help it and the haloing is intensified by those glows and looks horrible.

Can’t take a pic of the dead pixel because they are too small and pretty much unnoticeable. But I attached a pic of the stuck pixel, which is very obvious
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They could (and must) make a clever algorithm to reduce the blooming like many Samsung TV.

When in a black space there is a small area that is not black (like a star) the backlight leds on that area could not bright too much
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They could (and must) make a clever algorithm to reduce the blooming like many Samsung TV.

When in a black space there is a small area that is not black (like a star) the backlight leds on that area could not bright too much
Most the Samsung TVs don't have some superior algorithm, they just don't get nearly as bright, and they have VA panels. We have a Sammy in the bedroom, that doesn't bloom that bad, it's also 600nits peak brightness, so like half the monitor lol.

Blooming is unavoidable with FALD, the brighter the lights, the worse it will be, IPS makes it a tad worse as well.

The only way you are not going to have to deal with blooming is buying LED.

To help manage it, turn the brightness down, that's about all you can do. If it still bothers you, try a TV, but I think you will find it has similar issues, and it's own issues to add.

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They could (and must) make a clever algorithm to reduce the blooming like many Samsung TV.

When in a black space there is a small area that is not black (like a star) the backlight leds on that area could not bright too much
Most the Samsung TVs don't have some superior algorithm, they just don't get nearly as bright, and they have VA panels. We have a Sammy in the bedroom, that doesn't bloom that bad, it's also 600nits peak brightness, so like half the monitor lol.

Blooming is unavoidable with FALD, the brighter the lights, the worse it will be, IPS makes it a tad worse as well.

The only way you are not going to have to deal with blooming is buying LED.

To help manage it, turn the brightness down, that's about all you can do. If it still bothers you, try a TV, but I think you will find it has similar issues, and it's own issues to add.
Yeah some samsung tvs have very agressive dimming algorithm that completely dims small bright highlights and crushes details. However, I considered a sony va tvs instead, like the x900f. That one has only 40 zones but 5x the contrast ratio compared to this monitor and sony’s dimming algorithm seems to receive praises so blooming maybe less noticeable. I can’t return the monitor though, and no one in my area will want to buy such an expensive monitor if I ever resell it. So I guess I’m stuck with this for now
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Yeah some samsung tvs have very agressive dimming algorithm that completely dims small bright highlights and crushes details. However, I considered a sony va tvs instead, like the x900f. That one has only 40 zones but 5x the contrast ratio compared to this monitor and sony’s dimming algorithm seems to receive praises so blooming maybe less noticeable. I can’t return the monitor though, and no one in my area will want to buy such an expensive monitor if I ever resell it. So I guess I’m stuck with this for now

Ya I dont know why people think this,
Its going to bloom even worse tbh, maybe not as bright of a bloom, but a larger blooming area. Its the nature of FALD, you are not going to escape it. Look at that vid with fixed backlight, the blooming from the square takes up half the screen lol.

To make thing even worse, look at that bloom trail. You guys really need to go to a TV store and look at these FALDs, they bloom just as bad or worse than our monitors. IF you dont want blooming, Buy OLED, that is simply your only option, no algorithm is going to remove it.

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1000+ zone miniLED VA might be pretty good with blooming, to be fair.

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1000+ zone miniLED VA might be pretty good with blooming, to be fair.
It likely would, does it exist? No, because its extremely cost prohibitive, and they cant scale it to a reasonable price yet.

You also have to specify where the 1000, like what size monitor. I attached a pic to visualize. Those are both, 40 leds.

Stating "This TV/Monitor has 1000 LEDS!" is irrelevant information outside of comparing it to a panel with the same size, and how many LEDs it has.


A 384 Zone, 27 inch VA monitor, may improve blooming a little bit, but not by that much.

a 1000 zone 65 inch TVs Local dimming will not be superior to a 384 zone 27 inch screen. The entire back of the screen must be lit.


There are 310 about 1 inch squares in a 27 inch monitor, a 65inch TV has 1808, which means a 65 inch TV would need 2260 LEDs to even match the monitor on a blooming radius standpoint, assuming both were IPS. You need to realize that just like with Pixels, the Amount of Pixels you have is irrelevant, its how many Pixels per Inch, that matters. Same here, how many LEDs the screen has is irrelevant, how many LEDs does it have per Inch.


So to put it in a realistic expectation, when you hover your mouse on a black screen on the monitor, you have a bloom around it of lighter blacks, by an inch, maybe inch and a half if over 1 led. Do that on that TV, and watch their be a 5 inch circle around the mouse cursor.
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