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https://www.amazon.it/LG-32GK850G-Mo...4&sr=8-1-fkmr0

I mean it's just 500 bucks, if 31.5 isn't that bad to play competitive and the smearing isn't exxaggerate/or tweakable i'd take this... what about the VRR input lag? Comparable to a xg2401 TN? SRGB mode? I like accurate colors, fu the oversaturated stuff

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0:40 look at the legs of the center/left guy jumping... is that overshoot or smearing? I hope the guy just set the overdrive too high because otherwhise this is not acceptable

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That smearing is most likely due to video compression/motion. I do not see any overshoot on this monitor...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Synoxia View Post
https://www.amazon.it/LG-32GK850G-Mo...4&sr=8-1-fkmr0

I mean it's just 500 bucks, if 31.5 isn't that bad to play competitive and the smearing isn't exxaggerate/or tweakable i'd take this... what about the VRR input lag? Comparable to a xg2401 TN? SRGB mode? I like accurate colors, fu the oversaturated stuff

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OaYTF7ulSA 0:40 look at the legs of the center/left guy jumping... is that overshoot or smearing? I hope the guy just set the overdrive too high because otherwhise this is not acceptable
The Freesync version was 400 euros until a few days ago. That one also has wide color gamut, and you don't need an Nvidia card, which in Italy are quite expensive. 2070 Super is about 100-150 euros more than the 5700 XT, sometimes even more than that.

It's kinda funny though that the smearing didn't bother me but the scanlines did. I think i'm much more susceptible to blemishes in static images then i am in moving ones, which is why the contrast of the 27GL850 is so annoying to me but by the same token i couldn't adjust to the way the VA looked on the desktop.
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This is the best monitor I have ever had for gaming, watching movies, browsing and working!
All in one thanks to its great contrast ratio and the best reactivity among all the VA type monitors!
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The Freesync version was 400 euros until a few days ago. That one also has wide color gamut, and you don't need an Nvidia card, which in Italy are quite expensive. 2070 Super is about 100-150 euros more than the 5700 XT, sometimes even more than that.

It's kinda funny though that the smearing didn't bother me but the scanlines did. I think i'm much more susceptible to blemishes in static images then i am in moving ones, which is why the contrast of the 27GL850 is so annoying to me but by the same token i couldn't adjust to the way the VA looked on the desktop.
Wide gamut = gimmick honestly. It will take a very long time for market to catchup for that, as it is now IMHO it only causes issue in displaying accurate colors because everything is SRGB.

https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/lg-32gk850g/ i mean LOL this monitor on fastest overdrive preset doesn't have any overshoot at any HZ range or atleast i can't see the one that PCmonitors is claming??
Do them get review samples or they buy monitors? As it is This looks like a significant upgrade from my current xg2401, i own a nvidia gpu so whatever.
The only things that conceirns me are
1. The longevity of this monitor, because they will not update the firmware to make gsync accessible to PS5, and consoles will never even support 1440p, will probably be playing 4k to 1440p
2. Input lag which is 5.4ms in VRR according to rtings and it's quite high compared to other 1440p which have 4.3-4.2... however i'm using xg2401 at 144hz, is this measured at 165hz? I am 99% sure that i am going to get an upgrade anyways
3. The size of this monitor.

Do you honestly think that it's too big to play RTS? 32" already gets into TV sizes

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I don't know how big 32" is but i can tell you 1440p on a 27 sometimes feels a bit too small. 32" 1440p is an interesting combination but there aren't many monitors like this, certainly no IPS screens?

I agree on the wide gamut thing but when i had the Quantum Dot VA the extra saturation did sort of help compensate for the washed out colors, at least for games, not so much movies because there the oversaturation is really eye catching. The sRGB emulation my 270GL850 has it's a decent solution if only they didn't lock out all the settings in the OSD. Wonder why they had to do that. Also for some reason LG really likes to calibrate their monitors with a cool tone. But i digress.
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again 12:16, is this issue present on your monitors too? @MonarchX
I need VA,SRGB and variable overdrive and this is the only panel that has all.
Idk why people are obsessed with IPS, you don't need viewing angles unless you are trying to look at the monitor from stupid positions, TN is a different story because gamma shifts even if you sit 0,5 cm lower. Vivid colors yeah but are you willing to get dark greys with that? I am not

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Quote: Originally Posted by Synoxia View Post
https://www.amazon.it/LG-32GK850G-Mo...4&sr=8-1-fkmr0

I mean it's just 500 bucks, if 31.5 isn't that bad to play competitive and the smearing isn't exxaggerate/or tweakable i'd take this... what about the VRR input lag? Comparable to a xg2401 TN? SRGB mode? I like accurate colors, fu the oversaturated stuff

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OaYTF7ulSA 0:40 look at the legs of the center/left guy jumping... is that overshoot or smearing? I hope the guy just set the overdrive too high because otherwhise this is not acceptable
850G is undersaturated even for sRGB, unless you use it as a TV from a 4m far away couch.
These blurry videos are useless to see any judge anything from.

Quote: Originally Posted by Synoxia View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9x8ynFEZlk again 12:16, is this issue present on your monitors too? @MonarchX
I need VA,SRGB and variable overdrive and this is the only panel that has all.
Idk why people are obsessed with IPS, you don't need viewing angles unless you are trying to look at the monitor from stupid positions, TN is a different story because gamma shifts even if you sit 0,5 cm lower. Vivid colors yeah but are you willing to get dark greys with that? I am not
100% yes, some of these VA panels are screwed up with too deep backlight that doesn't extend enough around sides and you loose pixels even from normal viewing positions. I've reported and documented this for the Samsung and AUO VAs, the other monitors (IPS) didn't have this problem.

You do need viewing angles, duh! Unless you are watching your monitors from 10 meters away, I certainly don't.
25deg for a 31.5" is pretty normal and VA can't do that, the 850G desaturates a lot out of center. All VAs do. If a panel is already in red at 30 deg on rtings measurements, it's bad. You want one that stays in the green, aka minimal change with angle.
The Samsung VA also has terrible blacks viewing angles and glow. AUO VA has better blacks viewing angle but Samsung VA has better colors and brightness viewing angles.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417

The difference in viewing angles between IPS and other LCD types is night and day.

All the 850G photos and videos of smearing/response times, viewing angles, pixel layout, blb, glow and other possible issues are all here:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/44-m...40p-144hz.html

The gallery without descriptions is here: https://imgur.com/a/bDFVmjz
The VA vs IPS smearing is here:

Even at 60fps you can see how snail the VA is, you can also see some of the over shoots but would need much faster recording frame rate to capture those well.

If you like it, buy it, otherwise all about these monitors have been covered in reviews and what hasn't is in these Samsung and LG threads from users and comparisons of endless issues in my own threads.
In the end you have to buy it and see it. Some people buy a VA, look at it and send it back the same day, no joke, it can be that bad to them even for some simple office/home work and gaming. Especially if one had an IPS before that was nice and uniform on it's entire area.
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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
850G is undersaturated even for sRGB, unless you use it as a TV from a 4m far away couch.
These blurry videos are useless to see any judge anything from.



100% yes, some of these VA panels are screwed up with too deep backlight that doesn't extend enough around sides and you loose pixels even from normal viewing positions. I've reported and documented this for the Samsung and AUO VAs, the other monitors (IPS) didn't have this problem.

You do need viewing angles, duh! Unless you are watching your monitors from 10 meters away, I certainly don't.
25deg for a 31.5" is pretty normal and VA can't do that, the 850G desaturates a lot out of center. All VAs do. If a panel is already in red at 30 deg on rtings measurements, it's bad. You want one that stays in the green, aka minimal change with angle.
The Samsung VA also has terrible blacks viewing angles and glow. AUO VA has better blacks viewing angle but Samsung VA has better colors and brightness viewing angles.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417

The difference in viewing angles between IPS and other LCD types is night and day.

All the 850G photos and videos of smearing/response times, viewing angles, pixel layout, blb, glow and other possible issues are all here:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/44-m...40p-144hz.html

The gallery without descriptions is here: https://imgur.com/a/bDFVmjz
The VA vs IPS smearing is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SovGVIJClg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElptVHr1W-k

Even at 60fps you can see how snail the VA is, you can also see some of the over shoots but would need much faster recording frame rate to capture those well.

If you like it, buy it, otherwise all about these monitors have been covered in reviews and what hasn't is in these Samsung and LG threads from users and comparisons of endless issues in my own threads.
In the end you have to buy it and see it. Some people buy a VA, look at it and send it back the same day, no joke, it can be that bad to them even for some simple office/home work and gaming. Especially if one had an IPS before that was nice and uniform on it's entire area.
IPS glow is so disgusting that it disqualifies IPS panels all together!
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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
850G is undersaturated even for sRGB, unless you use it as a TV from a 4m far away couch.
These blurry videos are useless to see any judge anything from.



100% yes, some of these VA panels are screwed up with too deep backlight that doesn't extend enough around sides and you loose pixels even from normal viewing positions. I've reported and documented this for the Samsung and AUO VAs, the other monitors (IPS) didn't have this problem.

You do need viewing angles, duh! Unless you are watching your monitors from 10 meters away, I certainly don't.
25deg for a 31.5" is pretty normal and VA can't do that, the 850G desaturates a lot out of center. All VAs do. If a panel is already in red at 30 deg on rtings measurements, it's bad. You want one that stays in the green, aka minimal change with angle.
The Samsung VA also has terrible blacks viewing angles and glow. AUO VA has better blacks viewing angle but Samsung VA has better colors and brightness viewing angles.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revie...omparison_1417

The difference in viewing angles between IPS and other LCD types is night and day.

All the 850G photos and videos of smearing/response times, viewing angles, pixel layout, blb, glow and other possible issues are all here:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/44-m...40p-144hz.html

The gallery without descriptions is here: https://imgur.com/a/bDFVmjz
The VA vs IPS smearing is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SovGVIJClg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElptVHr1W-k

Even at 60fps you can see how snail the VA is, you can also see some of the over shoots but would need much faster recording frame rate to capture those well.

If you like it, buy it, otherwise all about these monitors have been covered in reviews and what hasn't is in these Samsung and LG threads from users and comparisons of endless issues in my own threads.
In the end you have to buy it and see it. Some people buy a VA, look at it and send it back the same day, no joke, it can be that bad to them even for some simple office/home work and gaming. Especially if one had an IPS before that was nice and uniform on it's entire area.
I think once again it all comes down to preference, but i don't see smearing/i am not subject to it from this panel in the reviews i've seen, check this ufo test
https://pcmonitors.info/wp-content/u...blur-165Hz.png[img]
In comparison my XG2401 is plain brown defecation lol, also being consistent across all the range... at 60hz my monitor is a blurry mess.
What would make me step from this monitor is the overall lag, size and g-sync usability.
From what i'm seeing it should have a similiar lag to my xg2401, actually faster input lag but of course slower response time...
Viewing angles as i said does not seem a problem to me because my TN is worse. I am using this monitor from perfect center D:
Saturation isn't a thing you can calibrate?
Better black of VA > better color of IPS, unless i find an IPS panel that has better blacks than a VA im for this va

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