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post #2481 of 2512 (permalink) Old 01-02-2020, 03:40 PM
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Orange faces I've had with AOC AG322QCX, Samsung's 31.5" VA but with TPV's backlight and AOC's weird tone mapping which made faces orange and overall it was kind of oversaturated. While Samsung's own 27" HG70 yes had bright saturated unnatural QD peak colors but otherwise the tone mapping was way better and I haven't seen orange (also called lobster) faces on other wider gamut monitors.
A lot has to do with how they tone map/calibrate it.

With VA you can have the opposite problem due to black crush in dead center before viewing angles make the blacks brighter around edges. I hated this on the Samsung VA with it's low viewing angles for blacks, this AUO VA is way better in that regard of how large the black spot is and how much it glows + viewing angles for blacks.

With 850G it's rather the opposite problem, lack of saturation out of center due to viewing angles.
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I owned this monitor 32GK850G and returned it, because I was shocked by blurred image and text. I owned before Samsung S32D850 which had great sharpness of the image and text.

Im wondering mostly to buy:
ASUS XG32VQ
Acer Z321QU
LG 34GK950F

Would be glad if someone have experience with above models or some others and confirm me if its have the "standard" sharpness not like 32GK850G.
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Yeah the LG firmware blurs it a little as far as I remember.

Isn't that Acer the same VA panel? You could try that if you like the panel but not the firmware issues on LG.
Don't remember the ASUS, searching, ah yeah just a curved Samsung VA rebadge isn't it. 34GK is very pricey if I remember right, and curved, yuck, it's also less tall than 16:9 32", it's a wider 27" really = higher than standard PPI = scaling issues in most OSes unless you like tiny text. http://www.displaywars.com/34-inch-d...7B2560x1440%7D

Still nothing new so far I think in the 32" IPS/VA department 100+Hz 1440p. You've got the AUO and Samsung VA, that's it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
Yeah the LG firmware blurs it a little as far as I remember.

Isn't that Acer the same VA panel? You could try that if you like the panel but not the firmware issues on LG.
Don't remember the ASUS, searching, ah yeah just a curved Samsung VA rebadge isn't it. 34GK is very pricey if I remember right, and curved, yuck, it's also less tall than 16:9 32", it's a wider 27" really = higher than standard PPI = scaling issues in most OSes unless you like tiny text. http://www.displaywars.com/34-inch-d...7B2560x1440%7D

Still nothing new so far I think in the 32" IPS/VA department 100+Hz 1440p. You've got the AUO and Samsung VA, that's it.
Acer is also AUO panel, but must be different model, because it curved.
ASUS with Samsung panel could be way to go.
34GK950 is currently not much pricey, but I'm concerned about little height.
The new firmware on 32GK850 resolved the sharpness of the screen? Thank you.
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Never heard of any new firmware for these LG monitors. Even if there is one it often means having a monitor serviced to get it updated. It's rather rare to get an updater to download from manufacturer.

Yeah some of the AUO VA variants are curved, eh.

PX329 is flat. LG are flat. But Acer and BenQ have the curved variant.
I won't use curved monitor after trying a couple of the curved Samsung VAs in 27" and 31.5", it's simply wrong and distorted as expected, the panel quality is often ruined by the curving process too and all it seems to offer are disadvantages and undesirable characteristics. Why do they curve most of their VA monitor panels? To help deal with the poor VA viewing angles a little, to "look cool" in marketing.

If you like the VA options, I would stick with flat AUO or try the newer flat Samsung options but I don't those models or what is there finally available with them.

There is stuff like the 38" UW from LG but again most UWs are curved = undesirable and insanely priced, https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_38gl950g.htm and it has the same issue as other newer LG IPS "gaming" panels, damn low contrast for an IPS, below 1000:1 in a territory of old TNs. For that price, it should have had at least FALD if they can't do dual layer.

For UWs there is now https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews..._nx-edg34s.htm which I've seen getting mentioned lately. Again, to me undesirably curved, has a blacks smearing Samsung VA. But it's around 500-700 USD/EUR which is a bit lower than the insanity of other UW monitors at 900-infinity.

Why do I hate curving? It distorts the image, the image from 3D apps/games is rendered centered camera looking at a flat plane, not looking at a curved plane. All the speed perception in games is wrong due to it. You can adapt, somewhat, if you can sit very still in the same spot but it's annoying and less consistent than using a flat screen. All the webpages, movies, etc. are gonna be warped.
But also because you get crap like this because of it:



^ASUS TUF VG32VQ from rtings
Though right up top in search of this ASUS is an YT video of how bad it is when it comes to Async+strobing, the language is so bad I would get a warning on OCN for even writing it's title.
Yeah, don't fall into the strobing deep hole, strobing is great to reduce motion blur of sample and hold by strobing instead but it needs to be user adjustable or damn right perfectly done by manufacturer otherwise it results in endless crosstalk between frames. Let alone with Async it also has to keep the perceived brightness equal for each frame. The idea and technically it's simple but it has not been sold working well so far. There are some older BenQ/Zowie monitors with an official 3rd party app to adjust the strobing but those are the only I know that could actually have a usable and adjustable strobing.

Sadly all the 32" 1440p 144+Hz are VA so far.

Dell https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s3220dgf

I have no hopes for LG ever resolving any issues with their products. You can talk to them, somewhat with some luck but you will never get any firmware update out of them (I tried, others tried), as always they will tell you to send it in for servicing and that won't solve anything if they have no firmware update to fix the problems. The 850G had not only sharpness issues but also unwanted OSD popup. Early batches looked nicer than older batches where people started to get defective panels. Or mine where the electronics were loose somewhere inside causing problems with connection quality and artifacts on half the screen most of the time. All this with 2 years (law minimum, probably 1 year in US etc.) only warranty on probably all LG products = low confidence in their own products lasting, doesn't matter if it's a 500 EUR LG monitor or 2500 EUR LG TV, you're gonna get 2 years warranty, it's nuts. Other manufacturers offer longer warranty even on way cheaper products.

If you like VA, there are options, flat and curved, but very limited options to AUO or Samsung VA in 100+Hz.
For other LCD types, so far nothing in 100+Hz Soon, maybe, who knows, check TFTC's blog/log of when what panels should arrive.

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Thank you for nice reply.
Personally Im not preferring VA panels, I prefer IPS, but there arent any in 32" 16:9 area, so only 34" ultrawide area, but I dont know how I will accept height of 27" 16:9 monitor after 32" 16:9.

Im also not prefer curved panels, it doesnt help to see much more content because the curvature is very low on 32".
There is new MSI Optix MAG322CQ which have more curvature, but Im dunno if it will help in terms of picture quality.

Maybe the Samsung panels are better in terms of picture quality than AUO in 32" format?
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Does anyone know if LG ever released any firmware for this monitor?
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Quote: Originally Posted by MonarchX View Post
Does anyone know if LG ever released any firmware for this monitor?
even if they did, how would you update it?
I still dont have any issues with this monitor and games look awesome on it - no issues with blurred text either (I dont see any difference in text between this monitor and IPS Dells I have at work)

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Quote: Originally Posted by smoke2 View Post
Thank you for nice reply.
Personally Im not preferring VA panels, I prefer IPS, but there arent any in 32" 16:9 area, so only 34" ultrawide area, but I dont know how I will accept height of 27" 16:9 monitor after 32" 16:9.

Im also not prefer curved panels, it doesnt help to see much more content because the curvature is very low on 32".
There is new MSI Optix MAG322CQ which have more curvature, but Im dunno if it will help in terms of picture quality.

Maybe the Samsung panels are better in terms of picture quality than AUO in 32" format?
No. Not in my experience, I've summed the differences a few times by now, probably check the thread in signature it should have most of them illustrated.

Quote: Originally Posted by MonarchX View Post
Does anyone know if LG ever released any firmware for this monitor?
And no.

How would one update it? Some monitors (Samsung?) support updating from a USB drive plugged into a specific USB on the monitor. But any modern product should be capable if designed with customer in mind to be updated via USB cable from a computer. Yeah I did that with my camera for sure, etc. But with monitors it's not so common. Mice, sure, damn thing probably updates itself if it's software is installed. So it's not that hard, they just don't wanna.
Monitors almost if not always have a service menu where more options are available, they may also have secret button combination to trigger an update from USB drive, etc. that only service centers know and don't want to leak since you can't get the update often anyway to do it yourself.
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even if they did, how would you update it?
I still dont have any issues with this monitor and games look awesome on it - no issues with blurred text either (I dont see any difference in text between this monitor and IPS Dells I have at work)
Interesting. It may be that not every one piece have problem with sharpness? Is there someone who seen two different pieces with different sharpness?
I was wondering maybe 32GK850F have different sharpness, but I doubt, because its the same panel...
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