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post #21 of 210 (permalink) Old 06-01-2018, 02:13 AM
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Apparently only full hd is 144hz. This marketing im not liking, try to hype 4k 144 hz or 2560x1440 ips and 144hz BUT sorry bro only full hd is 144hz.
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Apparently only full hd is 144hz. This marketing im not liking, try to hype 4k 144 hz or 2560x1440 ips and 144hz BUT sorry bro only full hd is 144hz.
I see the 23.8" Acer Nitro VG240Y listed with 1920 x 1080 @ 75 Hz.

So apparently we can expect only 21.5" to be 144Hz. On the plus side: not much IPS glow with this size probably.

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Just logging on to say im definetly buying the 1080p 144hz version, regardless of size, my current monitor is a 22" 120 1680x1050 anyway.


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Like I said, the 1080p monitors (21,5", 24", 27") are 75 Hz only.
It makes sense, because there is no known 1080p high refresh rate panel.
FreeSync range is 48-75, Backlight Strobbing (thus they market the monitor as 1ms) is available (LG already released such monitors with the exact same features).

https://acerjapan.com/monitor/nitro/
https://www.alternate.de/html/product/1435801


The 1440p monitors will most likely be the successor of the XF270HUA and they may even use the updated AUO panels.
The new 1440p 144 Hz LG panels are not in production until december 2018 and thus very unlikely to be used.

The 2160p monitors are unknown, most likely 60 Hz only. Maybe the b-grade panels from the new 2160p, 120 Hz will be used.
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Quote: Originally Posted by HalongPort View Post
Like I said, the 1080p monitors (21,5", 24", 27") are 75 Hz only.
It makes sense, because there is no known 1080p high refresh rate panel.
FreeSync range is 48-75, Backlight Strobbing (thus they market the monitor as 1ms) is available (LG already released such monitors with the exact same features).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRuihKxo3CE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpM3iFqLJZE
https://acerjapan.com/monitor/nitro/
https://www.alternate.de/html/product/1435801


The 1440p monitors will most likely be the successor of the XF270HUA and they may even use the updated AUO panels.
The new 1440p 144 Hz LG panels are not in production until december 2018 and thus very unlikely to be used.

The 2160p monitors are unknown, most likely 60 Hz only. Maybe the b-grade panels from the new 2160p, 120 Hz will be used.
The panels don't care about refresh rate LOL. It's the electronics that control these panels and are often offered/sold with them that tend to be limited to 60-75Hz for office use.

Sadly quite useless videos showing the undesirable 24" 1080p IPS that has been around for a decade. Yes these newer panels can be better or worse if they are newer at all.
Making 27" 1080p... no one sensible should buy that. Making any 1080p in 2017+ is just stalling as even back in 2014 27"+ 1440p was already desirable for gaming.

27"+ 100Hz+ 1440p is where it's at.

A replacement for XF270HUA that isn't a pile of blurry crap with endless AUO AHVA issues from glow, BLB, yellowing and stuck bright pixels would be nice.
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The panels don't care about refresh rate LOL. It's the electronics that control these panels and are often offered/sold with them that tend to be limited to 60-75Hz for office use.

Sadly quite useless videos showing the undesirable 24" 1080p IPS that has been around for a decade. Yes these newer panels can be better or worse if they are newer at all.
Making 27" 1080p... no one sensible should buy that. Making any 1080p in 2017+ is just stalling as even back in 2014 27"+ 1440p was already desirable for gaming.

27"+ 100Hz+ 1440p is where it's at.

A replacement for XF270HUA that isn't a pile of blurry crap with endless AUO AHVA issues from glow, BLB, yellowing and stuck bright pixels would be nice.
How likely would this even be the case that the newer panels are less issue prone? BLB is a byproduct of the frame applying too much pressure on the panel assembly and not inherently a problem with the actual LCD itself. Glow is also just the nature of IPS but it will vary from one IPS to another so they can perhaps improve on it here. Defective pixels are also a reality for displays no matter what, and they don't want to up the QC as that will up their costs, so you're left with doing exchanges until you get a pixel perfect one.

The area i'd like to see most improvements is pixel responsiveness, anything that eeks closer to TN pixel response would be appreciated.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Malinkadink View Post
How likely would this even be the case that the newer panels are less issue prone? BLB is a byproduct of the frame applying too much pressure on the panel assembly and not inherently a problem with the actual LCD itself. Glow is also just the nature of IPS but it will vary from one IPS to another so they can perhaps improve on it here. Defective pixels are also a reality for displays no matter what, and they don't want to up the QC as that will up their costs, so you're left with doing exchanges until you get a pixel perfect one.

The area i'd like to see most improvements is pixel responsiveness, anything that eeks closer to TN pixel response would be appreciated.
There's more to it than just panel pressure, the Eizo FS2735 has it like perfect with their 1000€ technique, but the BLB still exists, possibly really badly.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Malinkadink View Post
How likely would this even be the case that the newer panels are less issue prone? BLB is a byproduct of the frame applying too much pressure on the panel assembly and not inherently a problem with the actual LCD itself. Glow is also just the nature of IPS but it will vary from one IPS to another so they can perhaps improve on it here. Defective pixels are also a reality for displays no matter what, and they don't want to up the QC as that will up their costs, so you're left with doing exchanges until you get a pixel perfect one.

The area i'd like to see most improvements is pixel responsiveness, anything that eeks closer to TN pixel response would be appreciated.
Glow varies even between M270DAN2.6 panels, a lottery, even more so between different IPS panels and AHVA vs PLS vs IPS vs... IGZO? vs ... It's possible to make IPS type panel with minimal glow or even with ATW polarizer and near no glow.
BLB on XF270HUA is caused from my experience by panel construction sure to some degree especially when it comes to general yellowing and bleed across large areas that is faint. The spots around edges are not always a big problem on XF270HUA with the frame less design, there are some problematic spots and those affect all units. So yes they can improve the panel construction AND their "frameless" frame.
Dead pixels... up to panel makers to fine tune their machines, similar to yield from making silicon chips. But they don't tune it out and sell it all anyway as the panels "work" even if they are defective unlike defective silicon chips that do not work or parts of them have to be disabled an equivalent for panels would be for them to cut the panels into smaller pieces and remove defects that way but that's probably not feasible with LCDs as each panel is likely made at their size and if it's defective the whole thing should get scrapped. For stuck pixel defects though that is only 1 layer of the whole panel, they don't test it probably before assembling them into the whole package with metal frame and then it's too late and higher loses to scrap the whole piece.
I would be surprised if AUO even scraps any panels at all, they probably just sell it all as different grades if they do any grading even.

They can improve, both panel makers and monitor makers.
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The panels don't care about refresh rate LOL. It's the electronics that control these panels and are often offered/sold with them that tend to be limited to 60-75Hz for office use.

Sadly quite useless videos showing the undesirable 24" 1080p IPS that has been around for a decade. Yes these newer panels can be better or worse if they are newer at all.
Making 27" 1080p... no one sensible should buy that. Making any 1080p in 2017+ is just stalling as even back in 2014 27"+ 1440p was already desirable for gaming.

27"+ 100Hz+ 1440p is where it's at.

A replacement for XF270HUA that isn't a pile of blurry crap with endless AUO AHVA issues from glow, BLB, yellowing and stuck bright pixels would be nice.
At least 120 Hz please, I'd prefer 144-165 Hz tho (since we can't have 240 Hz IPS yet apparently)

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If their new 2500€ predator has this kind of QC, you can be sure that the BLB won't improve in these either compared to M270


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