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post #1 of 48 (permalink) Old 12-07-2018, 04:39 PM - Thread Starter
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For those who went from IPS to VA

I'm looking for a new monitor, an ultra-wide actually. My current monitor, IPS, has been great for these past 10 years. The only nit pick is the black level and contrast. For that reason, I was looking into VA panels... less than .10 nits black level when brightness is 120 nits or less. My current calibrated black level is like .17 nits... best is .14, but screen is way too dark. I see some VA panels go all the way bellow .05 nits. Most of my use is in a dark room... like pitch black when watching movies.

Anyways, for those that have IPS and VA, do you notice a lot of color shift or anything really "bad" like a lot of gamma shifting with viewing angles between the two?

Since I'm still sticking with SDR, the only real improvement for me would be black levels, contrast ratio, aspect ratio, resolution.

Anyone have a 1080p 34" ultra-wide? I might get one of those if it's not too blurry, but I'd prefer a 1440p.

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My comment may not hold much weight since I don't use a VA panel day to day, but have always used IPS monitors in the past 8 or so years, while having used 2 different 3440x1440 Ultrawide IPS monitors in the past 2+ years.

I briefly tried out a VA panel and mainly noticed that text is more blurry and that ghosting was visible with fast-moving objects. That said, black levels are better on the VA and it had almost no BLB compared to the various IPS panels I've used throughout the years. IPS glow is also something you don't have to worry about. Colors looked a bit washed out on the VA, but ICC profiles helped a lot.

I would definitely recommend looking at many different reviews and experiences regarding whatever model you plan to buy. VA panel quality varies largely from panel to panel, so you still might have to play the panel lottery.

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Get a good bias light and stick with IPS. VA has nicer blacks, and less bleed/glow compared to IPS, but it pretty much is worse everywhere else. I'm on TN because i need speed and TN is the fastest thing out there short of OLED but there aren't any oled gaming monitors.

I'm actually really interested in 2019s lineup of monitors with 0.5ms TN monitors and 1ms IPS monitors. I'm preferably looking to get a 240hz 1ms IPS @ 1440p since we'll finally see 1440p 240hz monitors next year as i just dont want to ever go back to 1080p anymore.

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On LED backlight monitors, do any of them use a big array of LEDs, or do they all use just strips more or less like CCFL ? If they don't use a big grid array of LEDs, that can be turned on/off anywhere anytime, why not ? The price of LEDs is nothing compared to the actual LCD panel, just be sure they are quality and don't burn out in 5 years

It's not like the old days tho, you can find old TV's sitting in the desert for decades, clean them up and get them working


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I used a dell ips monitor for several years, about 3 years ago i bought a highrefresh samsung VA ultrawide and just a week ago i bought a AHVA (IPS) 16:9 with a new auo panel (4k 120Hz).

My experience is that the ultrawide format, while very nice in some games (rpgs like witcher3 or ROTTR which i played) is very nice, it was useless for almost everything else i used my pc for. Websites, films and most games are optimized for 16:9. I don't think i will every buy a ultrawide monitor again (afte using one for more than two years) but your mileage may vary, it depends on what you use it for too, i just want to advise you to give it a good thought.

What i really disliked about IPS monitors was the ips glow (i am somehow bothered by it, even at low brightness settings). On my new monitor with a newer AUO panel, at least subjectively speaking, there is still glow, but it is tolerable at least so far for me, so i think i ll stay with that.
The problem, at least with Samsung VA panels i was using, for me was always that it had some black crush (dark shades of black were hardly differentiated) and there were visible breakup trails on some dark transitions. For example even when scrolling fast on websites, you could clearly see these trails smearing after the text as well as in some games(depending on the color shades used ). So the main "issue" with VA for me were the slow pixel transition times on darker shades.

I honestly think one can be satisfied with a good VA or IPS or TN, in the end it comes down to preference (if the monitor is decent and modern).

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Quote: Originally Posted by Kaltenbrunner View Post
On LED backlight monitors, do any of them use a big array of LEDs, or do they all use just strips more or less like CCFL ?
Hah! That one was funny.

Son, all we get is edge. The few models that come with an actual, usable array cost north of $1500.

Also, it's not the LED's that are expensive; it's the electronics involved in controlling them.

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Thanks for the input guys.

I'm still looking at ultra wide because of the extra workspace for video/ photo editing and general multi-tasking. Watching widescreen movies and playing some games in ultra-wide would be a bonus.

I have an old Spyder3 that I use with DisplayCal to profile and calibrate.

Anyone compare a calibrated IPS to a calibrated VA? I would image if the calibration was successful, they'd look pretty much the same except for the contrast ratios. Black crush should be handled with the calibration too... unless the VA simply has huge gamma issues in dark scenes.

I wish there were places other than "big box" stores to check out monitors in real life.

Even after 10 years, my calibrated IPS display still impresses me... with bright images at least. Chasing blacks might be a fools errand until OLED ever makes it to PCs.

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Even after 10 years, my calibrated IPS display still impresses me... with bright images at least. Chasing blacks might be a fools errand until OLED ever makes it to PCs.
I just checked a review from 2008 on it and it really is an impressive monitor, especially color coverage and viewing angles.

But, yeah, even in VA monitors the darkest shades are pretty disappointing.

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Sorry to derail, but I actually use an HP LP2475w and HP LP2465 at work!

Honestly, I think you'll be happier with an IPS monitor if that's what you're used to. VA just didn't look right for a long-time IPS user like myself. Regarding curved Ultrawides, I personally don't see myself ever going back to 16:9 or 16:10 monitors unless OLED gaming monitors came out and didn't have any Ultrawide versions.

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Sorry to derail, but I actually use an HP LP2475w and HP LP2465 at work!

Honestly, I think you'll be happier with an IPS monitor if that's what you're used to. VA just didn't look right for a long-time IPS user like myself. Regarding curved Ultrawides, I personally don't see myself ever going back to 16:9 or 16:10 monitors unless OLED gaming monitors came out and didn't have any Ultrawide versions.
Yeah, that's what I was concerned about. I definitely leaning towards another IPS display.

When calibrated, my LP2475w only has like 550 or 600 to one contrast ratio. I set the brightness to like 80 or 90 nits when I watch stuff in low or no light conditions. IPS glow never really bothered my that much.

I would like better blacks, but the natural looking colors of my current IPS are too nice to give up.

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