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So, I have been through FOUR of these monitors from the local microcenter so far, praying Id get a good one. Ive tried to look at all of them in the store before I walk out of there and notice something at home. Its an awesome monitor, 1440p, IPS, 144hz.... but from what Im now seeing, asus really screwed the pooch on QC on these didnt they? I think Im just trying too hard to like it.

Ive had dozens of stuck pixels in each monitor. Very frustrating. In my mind, for what these cost, it should be ZERO pixel defects. What are your thoughts? Is this just my OCD? theyre absolutely barely detectable, but its the fact that I know theyre there it just drives me a up a wall. I had initially bought an HP omen off amazon which is TN, but for the price was a great monitor. Having noticed dead pixels on that one, I arranged for a return. I decided to go the local route from microcenter, just in case that one had dead pixels I could return/test replacements easier.

What are my other g-sync/1440p/144hz options? ASUS has the pg278 I believe, which is TN, but I have little confidence now. Thoughts?
Depends on manufacturer policy. PG279Q is one of the main horror stories of AUO M270DAN2.x based monitors, expect to have to lottery around 10 to get something decent if ever. Dead pixels, dust, scratches, endless BLB due to misdesigned frame mounting, some panels suffer from excessive BLB, some from poor viewing angles, almost all suffer from one side is warm other side is cold, the list is endless for M270DAN2.x.

The only sensible 144Hz monitor and panel I know of is LG 32GK850F/650F, PX329. 850G has issues but to some they are acceptable.

Wait for Innolux based monitors of better specs, they are already sold in Asia, Q1 in EU should be. XV272U etc.

Certain monitor ranges from some manufacturers do have 0 pixel policy but on the 144Hz+ panels I think all of those fall into regular trash monitor ranges for them. HP Z line is 0 defects, Philips has that on some, don't remember other, you always gotta check. As in if you get defects within warranty on a 0 pixel defects monitor you get a replacement, not just some initial after sale thingy which at least in EU is 14 days return no questions asked, by law.


Your luck with getting a defect free monitor goes kind of exponentially up the less you pay for a monitor and the more far you get from these borked poor quality 100Hz+ "native advertised" panels

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Oh wow thanks for the input. I did get the extended warranty from microcenter which was two years no questions asked, but also Dell has a very good warranty for pixel defects if I end up going for the ultrawide. I'm just going to take this pg279q back and never try any others . So annoying to sit there in the store unbox and test, trying to pick through and notice the defects. I'm sure the salespeople want to shoot me ...but hey it is commission for them. Very much leaning towards the Alienware ultrawide. Dell also as a TN gsync 144hz I may look at too, and also a bit cheaper. Just not as pretty. Nice to hear you're all on par with me, and that it's a totally reasonable expectation.

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Your luck with getting a defect free monitor goes kind of exponentially up the less you pay for a monitor and the more far you get from these borked poor quality 100Hz+ "native advertised" panels
Also what did you mean by this?

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Also what did you mean by this?
He means that if you buy a cheaper panel, you have better luck with no dead pixels.

This NewEgg special I have here is 144Hz 1ms 1080p and had 0 pixel issues. If it had any below what the dead pixel policy was at the time (5 or more I think it was) I would have immediately sold it and tried another. 0 is the only acceptable answer to your question.


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He means that if you buy a cheaper panel, you have better luck with no dead pixels.

This NewEgg special I have here is 144Hz 1ms 1080p and had 0 pixel issues. If it had any below what the dead pixel policy was at the time (5 or more I think it was) I would have immediately sold it and tried another. 0 is the only acceptable answer to your question.

So spending less yields more consistent quality?

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Sadly, yes. The level of QC does not seem to scale with the price.

For example, I have probably seen over 1500 HP flat panels with 0 dead pixels get deployed. I have also seen about 200 low response time, expensive video editing panels all with some sort of pixel issue out of the box. The whole order of 200 panels. All of them. At $1700 a pop. This was chalked up to a "bad batch" and the distributor sent us another 200 making sure they were acquired in blocks of 50 from different warehouses. 111 of those had pixel issues. During this refresh project another 250 27" HP panels arrived. Standard workstation monitors. 249 of them were perfect. 1 would not power on at all. These are $235 monitors.

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Sadly, yes. The level of QC does not seem to scale with the price.

For example, I have probably seen over 1500 HP flat panels with 0 dead pixels get deployed. I have also seen about 200 low response time, expensive video editing panels all with some sort of pixel issue out of the box. The whole order of 200 panels. All of them. At $1700 a pop. This was chalked up to a "bad batch" and the distributor sent us another 200 making sure they were acquired in blocks of 50 from different warehouses. 111 of those had pixel issues. During this refresh project another 250 27" HP panels arrived. Standard workstation monitors. 249 of them were perfect. 1 would not power on at all. These are $235 monitors.
Wow. Yeah I didn't think the monitor would be the hardest to go right with this build. Never was even on my radar as possibly being the largest cause of grief. We sit here and fuss over obscure voltages in the bios while overclocking as if that's the hardest to get working without flaw haha.

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Wow. Yeah I didn't think the monitor would be the hardest to go right with this build. Never was even on my radar as possibly being the largest cause of grief. We sit here and fuss over obscure voltages in the bios while overclocking as if that's the hardest to get working without flaw haha.
I know, it's frustrating. We thought the GPU and other hardware demands of the video guys would have been the most difficult to manage. Nope. It was the fricken monitors.

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I know, it's frustrating. We thought the GPU and other hardware demands of the video guys would have been the most difficult to manage. Nope. It was the fricken monitors.

Also: Sandy-Capable. LOVE it. They seriously need to fix the Rep system here. +rep for that name alone. I'd give another for someone with a sense of humor.
Haha ill take it. Shes been a strong beast for many years for me! Trying to think of names for the new one. I need to fix it but rigbuilder is broken.

Also, I ended up going with the dell 144HZ TN panel. Yes its no IPS but it was just exhausting dealing with the IPS lottery. So far so good. Subtle, decent quality, no overclocking though but thats whatever for me. Not full of gaming stuff on the outside. Although I do like the ambient lighting sometimes if its done right. Ive got bias lighting for the back of the panel on the way.

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