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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-17-2019, 12:37 PM - Thread Starter
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What kind of setup do I need for gaming at 1440p/144hz?

I currently have a pretty nice rig I got on Black Friday with a RTX 2080 (Blower style unfortunately Would that be enough to still run AAA titles at ultra settings with a 1440p/144 Hz monitor? I'm currently getting about 140 FPS on a 1080p monitor in Shadow of the Tomb Raider and I've been playing Far Cry 5 as well. I'll also be playing AC: Odyssey once I get my free copy from the project stream beta (can't wait to see what it looks like outside of a chrome browser). Can anyone recommend some decent entry level monitors? I'd like to stay within the $350 or so range. I'd almost certainly want it to be a freesync monitor now that Nvidia is supporting it but I realize I probably won't be getting full RGB for that amount. But hey, you never know if a slickdeal might come along or something

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Ultra settings are generally pretty wasteful, who needs 8x MSAA for 27" 1440p?
Your GPU will do it but not in every game on max settings with 144fps minimums lol.
If your CPU is already feeding 120fps pretty well I'd say it's fine. The GPU is also plenty but dialing back settings that don't improve IQ will help you stay on the high side.

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Depending on your case and airflow, a blower card may be better :-) Imho the hate for this sort of cooler is a bit overblown. I had the 1070 FE in a Ncase M1 (SFX) and it was perfect and a lot less noisy than my 2080 FE or 2080 ti were.




otherwise, I think you should be really fine with your 2080 for 1440p 144hz. You will not push 144fps at max settings in all games but as said above decreasing a few setting should do the trick.



If it is not the case, then the game is probably poorly optimized and it would be the same with e.g. a 2080ti (e.g. PUBG).



Do you have a recent CPU?



If I remember benchmarks correctly Shadow of Tomb Raider and AC Odyssey are not the easiest titles to drive so that you should expect better FPS with most of the other titles.


In any case, unless you play at a very high level, 100fps already quite nice.


At this price point, you could go TN with a S2719DGF from Dell or with Acer with the VG270UP. Both support freesync but not sure they are Gsync compatible. There is probably a lot of others.

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I'd want IPS for for anything other than esport games.
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Let me address several of your questions and/or points:

I have an 8700k which I haven't yet overclocked. It has an AIO cooler but the InWin case has ****ty cooling. I still need to install three intake fans on the bottom. Right now it has the AIO fan as exhaust out of the back and 3 120mm fans side mounted at the top. It's too bad there was no front intake as the rest of the case is totally empty and has nothing restricting airflow. I really miss my Coolermaster Storm Sniper. I'll attach pics.

I definitely would prefer a VA or IPS Panel. Not sure which is better for a performance/quality standpoint. I play FPS's but not competitively whatsoever. I like stuff like far cry more than spending hours on end playing multiplayer. I have enjoyed battlefield though, I just suck at it lol. I'm not an eSports gamer by any means so 5 ms is plenty fast.

I don't have to hit 144 Hz consistently, just want enough to notice the difference. 100 hz would probably be fine, 120 would be great. Freesync is a must and the G-Sync certified moniker is pure b.s. marketing speak. Their list of 12 certified monitors are almost all 1080p monitors and all are TN panels. No thanks. If you can enable free sync it will work. The variables in the performance of A-sync are in the quality of the monitor, not with how "compatible" it is.

32 inches would be great only because I've actually seen ones in that price range but 27/28 is perfectly acceptable.

I'm OK dropping some settings to extend the life of the card and usually drop down to 4x MSAA anyway. I'm happy to listen to suggestions on other settings I can tweak to improve performance as long as it doesn't lead to a significant hit in quality. (As dumb as it sounds, I do like my hairworks enabled, one giant ponytail bouncing around with nothing else moving annoys me for some reason lol)

Ideally I'd like to max out as much as I can now and be able to squeeze out high settings if possible in 4 years or so when I'm ready for a new build. Because there's no way I'm spending $700+ to extend the life of a 5 year old platform at that point. I miss the days when $400 for a high end card like the 5870 was way too much. I was able to build a top end machine for $1,350 back then.
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With that rig you should be more than fine.


Regarding IPS and VA:


- VA:

+Deeper blacks, more contrast, maybe less prone to issues like BLB and other issues since you do not have to deal with the AUO 27 IPS panel
- Lesser response time with sometimes issues like ghosting, lesser viewing angle


IPS:

+Good colors, good viewing angles, good contrast, good reactivity
- Almost all 1440p 27 144hz panel are made by AUO and the QC is more than horrible leading to issues like horrible BLB, dead pixels, bright sports, dust under coating, stains etc...


Innolux released recently a similar panel and although first feedback seems better, the QC seems not perfect.


With a budget of 350 EUR, if you want a VA/IPS panel with 1440p 144hz and freesync, i am afraid there is no display. The following are a bit more expensive. Maybe cheaper where you live?



- Acer VG270upbmiipx: 27' IPS : 378 EUR
- Acer ED323QURAbidpx 32' VA : 407 EUR
- MSI AG32CQ: 32 VA 144hz: 436 EUR

- Samsung LC27HG70 27' VA: 475
- Acer XV272UPbmiiprzx: 27' IPS (Innolux panel): 484 EUR


Good luck :-)

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Sometimes it's almost as if people want to rub it in. Have a GPU from top 3 best performing cards in the world and has to ask if it will run 1440p 144Hz well enough. LOL

If you want cheap 1440p 144Hz... probably try find some VA and TN monitors, the VA are likely to be curved Samsungs though and TN have their own endless issues.
350 or under... they will most likely be older undesirable models.
371 EUR C27JG52:
https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-C27JG5...ywords=c27jg52
425 EUR 2719DGF:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07HRZ57ZZ?...v75pBgCpYNf6uA
400 EUR VG270UP

Would I recommend any of these? Certainly not.

Next time... leave as much as you paid for GPU for a monitor.
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The samsung you listed is not freesync compatible. You have to skip to the one mentioned in my post for that and it is more expensive.

However @OP to be honest given your budget and your gpu I would just not make freesync a must have feature. Adaptative sync does not make a huge difference if you can push 100fps on 144 hz display.
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The samsung you listed is not freesync compatible. You have to skip to the one mentioned in my post for that and it is more expensive.

However @OP to be honest given your budget and your gpu I would just not make freesync a must have feature. Adaptative sync does not make a huge difference if you can push 100fps on 144 hz display.
I was thinking feeesync more for when the GPU starts to get a little older and I'm pushing closer to 60 fps

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Well then you gotta wait for something newer cheaper or be OK with older 1080p.
Finding a decent 144Hz of any kind and size is a miracle.
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