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Alienware 55 inch Oled Monitor $3999 September 30th Release Date

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/19/2...e-date-pricing

I am glad I didn't wait for this monitor now with dp 1.2 and no HDR support in sight but at least it has the fast response time and freesync support.

Update: Dell has gotten back to us, confirming that their original spec sheet was wrong, and that the monitor comes with DisplayPort 1.4 rather than 1.2. So the display does in fact have enough bandwidth for [email protected] with 8bpc color.

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There is all sorts of things wrong with this launch.

The original spec sheet is wrong, it does have DP 1.4 (which is needed for 4K/120).

No HDR I think is some lame attempt to keep the panel wear down/burn in potential down for demanding PC use.

The response time listing of 0.5ms GTG is nonsensical, since there is no such thing as G2G when testing the speed of an OLED panel. Not to mention LG OLED panel pixel response is sub 0.1ms per the manufacturer.

Basically they are just filling the gap between now and when HDMI 2.1 video cards hit. For a $2500 price premium considering you can get a 55" C9 OLED for $1500. Come those HDMI 2.1 video cards, the C9 *may* be better because of the superior native HDR. I say *may* because we don't know if NVIDIA will allow VRR over HDMI 2.1 yet. If they don't, the Alienware will actually be the better choice since it has VRR.

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Quote: Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post
The response time listing of 0.5ms GTG is nonsensical, since there is no such thing as G2G when testing the speed of an OLED panel. Not to mention LG OLED panel pixel response is sub 0.1ms per the manufacturer.
To be fair, RTINGS measured OLED panels in LG and Sony TV's having around 0.2ms average for 80% transitions and up to around 2ms average for 100% transitions. It's entirely possible that, if measuring for something like, say, 90% transitions, 0.5ms would be a pretty accurate number.

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I hope Nvidia/ATI release an HDMI-VRR driver to spite Dell and that ridiculous launch price.
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Well, I wanted one, but not at that price. Lack of HDR is a bummer too. Maybe they'll release an HDR firmware to requesting customers at the cost of their warranty hehe.

But the good news is that we'll get 4k 120Hz oled this year. Better news is that we'll get it next year even cheaper when HDMI 2.1 cards are released and LG C9s are on closeout. 2020 oleds will be better at lower prices too.

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To be fair, RTINGS measured OLED panels in LG and Sony TV's having around 0.2ms average for 80% transitions and up to around 2ms average for 100% transitions. It's entirely possible that, if measuring for something like, say, 90% transitions, 0.5ms would be a pretty accurate number.
I'm not convinced RTINGS has the equipment good enough to evaluate such speed. This Blurbusters article has 0.1ms:

https://www.blurbusters.com/high-spe...les-at-960fps/

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I'm not convinced RTINGS has the equipment good enough to evaluate such speed. This Blurbusters article has 0.1ms:

https://www.blurbusters.com/high-spe...les-at-960fps/
Unless I'm mistaken, they recorded AMOLED, not LG's WRGB OLED. But, regardless of panel type, how did they reach the 0.1ms measurement? I'm not seeing anything regarding that. Individual frame analysis of a 960 FPS video would only allow the viewer to infer values closer to 1ms, not distinguish between sub-milisecond response times.

Even then, after watching the video, I could still see remnants (very faint ghosts) from previous frames in new ones. At 0.1ms response times, it would be impossible to see ghosting between 2 or more frames of the video.

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Shouldn't matter on the OLED version. Even with "only" 960 fps you can still see the very tiny fade wipe in the video, which blurbusters was referencing.

Every topic I've ever read on OLED has it substantially faster than 0.5ms. LG themselves claim "1,000" times faster than LCD, which would easily put it sub 0.1ms.

https://www.oled-info.com/lg-55em9700

http://www.displaymate.com/LG_OLED_TV_ShootOut_1.htm

https://depts.washington.edu/cmditr/...why_oleds.html

I'm just saying I am not totally sold on RTINGS testing method fort such a fast display. 2ms is an eternity for an emissive display. It would be interesting if someone like TFTCentral did some tests.

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Quote: Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post
I'm just saying I am not totally sold on RTINGS testing method fort such a fast display. 2ms is an eternity for an emissive display. It would be interesting if someone like TFTCentral did some tests.
I suppose. Short of believing LG's own material (which would still be pretty inconsequential, given that, regardless, OLED is fast enough, anyway), a second independent source would help prove or disprove RTINGS' measurements.

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