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ViewSonic Elite XG270QG thread

27850 lg panel but nvidia g-sync module and no SRGB option.
1000:1 contrast, better contrast? 165hz instead of 144hz

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It's kind of amazing that we're getting the exact same products for the same price almost 5 years later.

Technically, it has broader color space coverage, but that's hardly ideal for the target market (and even if you decided to use HDR with it, because it doesn't support it and lacks the backlight to do so anyway).

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Quote: Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post
It's kind of amazing that we're getting the exact same products for the same price almost 5 years later.

Technically, it has broader color space coverage, but that's hardly ideal for the target market (and even if you decided to use HDR with it, because it doesn't support it and lacks the backlight to do so anyway).

The monitor market is in a really depressing state.
In fact, i am here to actually see if someone comes up to actually use this monitor in SRGB mode without a colorimeter.

P.S it's 900 eur in my country. Like 970 usd. NOICE

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My review:

and companion text:
http://aperturegrille.com/reviews/ViewSonicXG270QG/

Pixel transitions are great for an IPS, and the stand is really good.

But... contrast is definitely not 1000:1. I measured 700:1, but my sample has pretty bad clouding throughout the screen. It does have a setting under Color Temperature for sRGB, but it doesn't clamp the extended primaries back to sRGB, so this isn't the monitor for anyone doing design work. Pulsing the backlight (ULMB) interacts badly with the red phosphor, which is most likely why LG didn't include any sort of backlight strobing on the 27GL850.

ViewSonic can only do so much with the LG panel, and the added expensive of G-Sync doesn't add much. If you're willing to make the contrast trade-off for faster response times, I don't see much reason to choose this over the 27GL850 or the 27GL83A.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ashun View Post
My review:
https://youtu.be/aNDCK6PiChY

and companion text:
http://aperturegrille.com/reviews/ViewSonicXG270QG/

Pixel transitions are great for an IPS, and the stand is really good.

But... contrast is definitely not 1000:1. I measured 700:1, but my sample has pretty bad clouding throughout the screen. It does have a setting under Color Temperature for sRGB, but it doesn't clamp the extended primaries back to sRGB, so this isn't the monitor for anyone doing design work. Pulsing the backlight (ULMB) interacts badly with the red phosphor, which is most likely why LG didn't include any sort of backlight strobing on the 27GL850.

ViewSonic can only do so much with the LG panel, and the added expensive of G-Sync doesn't add much. If you're willing to make the contrast trade-off for faster response times, I don't see much reason to choose this over the 27GL850 or the 27GL83A.
Variable overdrive. Maybe ULMB. Design + RGB. The only reasons.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post
You got yourself a new sub.
Yeah that;s a pretty good review.

Btw what if someone want accurate srgb content on this monitor? I am deciding between this and 83GLA, i need the variable overdrive and 165hz but can't stand oversaturated stuff

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ashun View Post
My review:
https://youtu.be/aNDCK6PiChY

and companion text:
http://aperturegrille.com/reviews/ViewSonicXG270QG/

Pixel transitions are great for an IPS, and the stand is really good.

But... contrast is definitely not 1000:1. I measured 700:1, but my sample has pretty bad clouding throughout the screen. It does have a setting under Color Temperature for sRGB, but it doesn't clamp the extended primaries back to sRGB, so this isn't the monitor for anyone doing design work. Pulsing the backlight (ULMB) interacts badly with the red phosphor, which is most likely why LG didn't include any sort of backlight strobing on the 27GL850.

ViewSonic can only do so much with the LG panel, and the added expensive of G-Sync doesn't add much. If you're willing to make the contrast trade-off for faster response times, I don't see much reason to choose this over the 27GL850 or the 27GL83A.

false advertisement with contrast ratio?

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false advertisement with contrast ratio?
SAme as lg. How old is this panel? Maybe there are some early issues, over time it will get better?

"experience deeper and more accurate in-game color."

Marketing is laughable. Wide gamut or accurate, chose one.

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Synoxia, I'm skeptical that G-Sync's variable overdrive here is much better than the FreeSync implementation on the LG monitors.

You made me curious, so I checked one particular response of the XG270QG in detail: RGB 63 to 159 at 85 Hz, a refresh rate that gives a lot of FreeSync panels trouble because they can't double the framerate (85*2=170, which is beyond their max refresh) to help with overdrive.

http://aperturegrille.com/reviews/Vi...-85Hz-Real.png

I measured 14.3 ms for this transition to complete. TFTCentral doesn't have that exact combination for the LG 27GL850, but they have 100 Hz, RGB 50 to 150. Not exact, but close enough.

https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/...0hz_normal.png

They use a bit more relaxed 10% to 90% requirement, but if I use that same requirement, the ViewSonic measures 7.7 ms. There doesn't seem to be much difference.

I know you're looking at the 27GL83A instead of the 27GL850, but they should have comparable response times and overdrive, and because you're not looking for extended gamut, I'd avoid the ViewSonic.
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