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Current monitor is over 12 years old, time to upgrade!

Sorry in advance if you guys get this type of request all the time, but in my defense it's been a while since I've been active on this forum. My current monitor, HP W2408, is over 12 years old now. I'm getting a $300 "productivity allowance" from my employer since we are all working from home for the foreseeable future. I'm willing to put in another $150 if needed. I'm looking mostly for additional screen real estate as I tend to have multiple applications/browsers open at a time. Currently, the distance from my eyes to my monitor is 2'-2.5'. I could get a VESA mount and probably add another half a foot to that. I've never seen a 32" monitor in person, but I have created a tag-board template to give me an idea but obviously it's not the same as actually being in front of one.

I'm also going to use this as my gaming monitor as well. I honestly never plan to get a flagship video card and will more than likely upgrade , I don't do competitive gaming, mostly games like Fallout 4, RDR2, D3, Elder Scrolls/Skyrim, etc. However, right now I'm mostly gaming on my xBox One X so good compatibility with that is required.

Here's what I'm looking for in general:

Size: 27" or 32"
Resolution: 2560 x 1440
Refresh Rate: 144Hz
Panel: VA or IPS (though I'm leaning towards VA as I really dislike the BLB on my current monitor)
Adaptive Sync: Freesync

Here are the ones I'm looking at thus far, but please feel free to educate me of any major shortcomings or recommend something better.


27"
MSI Optix MAG272QR
Pixio PX7 Prime
BenQ EX2780Q
ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ

32"
LG 32GK650F-B
ViewSonic VX3258-2KP-MHD
Pixio PX329

Let's face it, absolutely anything will be better than what I have now so I can't imagine the PPI of a 32" 1440 will bother me, it's just a matter of it being too freaking big for how close I'd be from it when working.

Anyway, have at it and thanks in advance!


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If you're leaning towards VA, you might as well consider Dell S3220DGF. Although, some might not like the curved VAs.
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well I have a Asus MG279Q 27" 144Hz IPS and a HP ultra 30" 2560 X 1600 60Hz IPS. as for the size I like the 30" for internet browsing, and I sit right up close to the monitor. I am old, so my eyes do not work so well anymore. now, for fast paced FPS, or racing games, nothing compares to the 27" 144Hz monitor. so I would go for the Asus VG27AQ 27", or the View sonic VX3258-2KP-MHD 32". I have used VA, and TN panel monitors, and both of them hurt my eyes, so today I have nothing but IPS monitors in my house. they are a little more expensive, but my eyes thank me for it every day.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Melan View Post
If you're leaning towards VA, you might as well consider Dell S3220DGF. Although, some might not like the curved VAs.
I wasn’t big on curved TVs and I’ve never seen a curved monitor to decide if I’d like it or not. Unfortunately, due to the current situation, I can’t go to a store to see one in person.

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well I have a Asus MG279Q 27" 144Hz IPS and a HP ultra 30" 2560 X 1600 60Hz IPS. as for the size I like the 30" for internet browsing, and I sit right up close to the monitor. I am old, so my eyes do not work so well anymore. now, for fast paced FPS, or racing games, nothing compares to the 27" 144Hz monitor. so I would go for the Asus VG27AQ 27", or the View sonic VX3258-2KP-MHD 32". I have used VA, and TN panel monitors, and both of them hurt my eyes, so today I have nothing but IPS monitors in my house. they are a little more expensive, but my eyes thank me for it every day.
I’m not getting any younger either, so maybe the bigger screen would be a bonus. May I ask what it was about the VA panel that hurt your eyes?


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well in truth I do not know for positive what caused it. I do know that with the TN panels they have a flicker, and while VA panels do not have the flicker, they both have that viewing angle issue. meaning that if you are not directly in front of the monitor, looking straight at it, the image becomes blurred, and faded, the greater the angel you are viewing the monitor from, the worse it gets.

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Most likely was the PWM backlight. Most panels nowadays are flicker free though.
And yeah, TN and VA have horrible viewing angles. Image degrades pretty bad if you're not right in front of the monitor.
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Most likely was the PWM backlight. Most panels nowadays are flicker free though.
Or FRC for bit depth. It wasn't so long ago that TN monitors were all shipped with 6bit+FRC.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ColdFusionWi View Post
Sorry in advance if you guys get this type of request all the time, but in my defense it's been a while since I've been active on this forum. My current monitor, HP W2408, is over 12 years old now. I'm getting a $300 "productivity allowance" from my employer since we are all working from home for the foreseeable future. I'm willing to put in another $150 if needed. I'm looking mostly for additional screen real estate as I tend to have multiple applications/browsers open at a time. Currently, the distance from my eyes to my monitor is 2'-2.5'. I could get a VESA mount and probably add another half a foot to that. I've never seen a 32" monitor in person, but I have created a tag-board template to give me an idea but obviously it's not the same as actually being in front of one.

I'm also going to use this as my gaming monitor as well. I honestly never plan to get a flagship video card and will more than likely upgrade , I don't do competitive gaming, mostly games like Fallout 4, RDR2, D3, Elder Scrolls/Skyrim, etc. However, right now I'm mostly gaming on my xBox One X so good compatibility with that is required.

Here's what I'm looking for in general:

Size: 27" or 32"
Resolution: 2560 x 1440
Refresh Rate: 144Hz
Panel: VA or IPS (though I'm leaning towards VA as I really dislike the BLB on my current monitor)
Adaptive Sync: Freesync

Here are the ones I'm looking at thus far, but please feel free to educate me of any major shortcomings or recommend something better.


27"
MSI Optix MAG272QR
Pixio PX7 Prime
BenQ EX2780Q
ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ

32"
LG 32GK650F-B
ViewSonic VX3258-2KP-MHD
Pixio PX329

Let's face it, absolutely anything will be better than what I have now so I can't imagine the PPI of a 32" 1440 will bother me, it's just a matter of it being too freaking big for how close I'd be from it when working.

Anyway, have at it and thanks in advance!
BLB has nothing to do with LCD type, they all suffer from it as it's not caused by a type of LCD but by inaccuracy/defects in manufacturing/assembly of the panel layers and backlight.
For work I would go with IPS, definitely. Even for gaming and movies it's often better, you can see for yourself how these compare or check my signature for comparison thread and list of options of these sort of monitors from 2019.

24" 1080p = 32" 1440p in terms of PPI. So I would go with 32" 1440p and that's also what I have after trying 10+ 27" and 32" 1440p monitors in last years.
If you don't want text smaller or use scaling in OS and programs, then you will want 32" 1440p, not 27". You're already very close when under 2.5'.

Avoid curved.

PX7 Prime, VG27AQ, vx2758-2kp-mhd is what I would check if you do want 27".
All the 32" 1440p are VA so far and there yes you could get the PX329 or LG equivalent (though beware of blurry image on those).

Sadly IPS 32" 1440p 100+ Hz options, haven't seen any. Myself I ended up with a good quality and cheap IPS 32" 1440p 75Hz after the years of atrocious quality issues of the 10+ 27" and 32" IPS and VA 144+ Hz monitors. So if you don't want to blow cash and don't need the higher refresh, willing to make other compromise even and get a non gaming focused monitor there are some very few options.

I love as high refresh as I can get, every Hz, but the quality can be really bad on these higher refresh gaming marketed monitors/panels. So prepare for returns and quality lottery. Not to mention that they still charge 2x price for 2x the refresh rate which is all decided by a small electronics board in the monitor and cost to manufacture is almost if not the same. The difference used to be even 4x a few years back. Now it's around 2x for the most part.

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My current monitor, HP W2408, is over 12 years old now.
I'm using an HP w2558hc right now (manufactured in 2008). Those were a solid design. Can't believe I've been satisfied with it this long.

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I was disappointed with the Pixio PX329. It feels like a TN panel and not a good VA. I had a cheap Korean IPS 1440p monitor oc'd to 75hz and preferred that over the Pixio PX329. It had great response and 144hz pushed constantly looked great during gaming but for everything else it lacked. The colors weren't vibrant and the overall brightness felt bleh. Ended up returning it after 2 days. I ended up using the monitor I bought my wife for work, a cheapo 27in 4k scepter IPS, that overclocked to 70hz. This monitor was impressive especially for the price, if I recall it cost 180 or something. I am currently using a LG 29in ultrawide IPS overclocked to 80hz.

I can't really comment on the rest of the monitors since I never had first hand experience.

But I feel IPS screens ruined other panels for me. I will never go with a TN or VA panel again. If you can afford high hz and IPS I would go that route. Just my 2 cents.

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