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If they made it flat it could've been a real winner. Probably would help with the BLB and uniformity issues. Still though, those response times are respectable and at 165Hz there is basically zero black smearing with fantastic overshoot levels so this should shut up a lot of people who keep banging on the black smearing drum on VA panels.
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1800 was stupid but passable, this ......

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If they made it flat it could've been a real winner. Probably would help with the BLB and uniformity issues. Still though, those response times are respectable and at 165Hz there is basically zero black smearing with fantastic overshoot levels so this should shut up a lot of people who keep banging on the black smearing drum on VA panels.
Yea, Exactly what it needs now is a 27inch, 165hz flat panel (Maybe better MBR implementation) for $500 and there goes everyone's money.

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If they made it flat it could've been a real winner. Probably would help with the BLB and uniformity issues. Still though, those response times are respectable and at 165Hz there is basically zero black smearing with fantastic overshoot levels so this should shut up a lot of people who keep banging on the black smearing drum on VA panels.
Yea, Exactly what it needs now is a 27inch, 165hz flat panel (Maybe better MBR implementation) for $500 and there goes everyone's money.
Yeah if they do that then there will be no reason to buy trash IPS panels anymore. Well of course even if Samsung does it then the IPS fanboys are just gonna say: B-b-but....muh viewing angles. 🙄

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I'm not sure if I'm more bothered by the fact that it's extremely curved or that the curve is really more of a fold in the middle, making it even more weird looking. I saw a vid that showed that towards the sides of the monitor it's pretty much flat.

Hope Samsung makes a flat (or way less curved) one without flickering issues.

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I feel like none of you understand that VA's this large are curved specifically because you'd otherwise have gamma shifting at the edge of the screen.

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27", pass.
Curved, hard pass.
32" for 800 USD... pass when the same sized monitor in IPS costs 200 USD.
27" for 700 USD... lol, what else to even say.

I don't like the curve from the video already, it again looks badly curved, it's not a cylindrical curve, there are parts that are curved and parts that are flat, same as was a problem on the Samsung HG70. The sides again look 10 cm from each edge flat as a pancake.

Stupid RGB lights even on the front. Who designs this RGB trash. Otherwise the frame and stand looks fine, it's not a terrible aesthetic.

The viewing angles, still not a fan of VA in that department.

No overdrive control what so ever in the only mode worth using, that's Adaptive sync enabled.

Congratulations Samsung for finally delivering a VA with overdrive tuning that doesn't suck for out of blacks transitions as the previous several generations of VA monitors have while VA TVs already had considerably better OD.
On the other hand, no one should buy this curved monstrosity. If it was 80 USD and could be bent flat DIY, then I might bother.

So from response time graphs it looks like a 60 Hz VA now, can do 14.59 ms which is a little under 16.66ms of a 60 Hz. And that's with a decent amount of over/undershoot error. But lets call that finally acceptable since the rest of the responses is really decently fast and the blacks are no longer a 24 Hz cinematic smear fest.

Dunno where HU gets that VA are slow in general, well they are in out of blacks but elsewhere are on par if not better than IPS when done right. Not suitable for gaming came from the endless black smearing until now, hopefully until now.

Well here we go with the overdrive again... 200 Hz, I would call that unusable due to over/undershoot error, that's some nasty error.
165, 144, 120, those look great. Below that, OK.

They should have added another point in their OD LUT for 200 Hz, as I bet it's probably set for 144 and 240 only or some such and at 200 it's a bit too much. Will one notice it, maybe, maybe not in typical usage at this refresh rate.

Over 50 W power? Oh my. Even the older VA were a power hog radiating heat that I could notice but this? This seems excessive.

Calibration report from Samsung inside monitor OSD, yeah, seen that, and I've had 5 units of which two were look alikes and others were at times so far off any possible calibration with ugly yellow tint and so on that my faith in factory calibration of a consumer/home/office oriented monitor is absolute zero. I want to see a report sheet from the calibration tool for a specific unit before I click "buy/add to cart/pay" for that specific unit.

That gamma calibration, *facepalm*. Someone forgot when calibrating that gamma 2.2 standard doesn't mean 2.2 fixed at all levels but that it is a specific curve. Black equalizer postprocessing to the rescue then... which in most cases is postprocessing = add banding.

2000:1 contrast... saw that one coming, so here we go, once again they use a raised black level to try and improve the out of blacks performance, negating the one advantage that VA has over IPS and that is a low black level. The HG70s were around 2200-2500:1? Maybe 2700:1 on a good day? Well now it's not even 2000:1.

A good VA should be 3000:1 minimum.

Strobing, as bad as ever due to no user control being allowed to fix the awful strobing calibration.

Uniformity... well hello curving destruction of otherwise good panel.


Make it flat, fix the issues, then it may be worth buying or recommending.
The low amount of rights isn't enough to make it worth it over it's negatives.

1440p, 240Hz, reasonable response times for a VA, good.
Curve, some OD problems, no OD options, curving destruction of the panel causing BLB etc., marketing strobing with no user control and unusable, front facing RGB, overpriced, ... really bad.

Flat, flat, flat, half the price. This one is what the HG70 should have been. This one needs to be flat and at least match HG70 in price, not double the price.

400 USD/EUR, flat, then it's worth considering.

Flat, no RGB disco lights, no strobing that doesn't work anyway, no need for 8 useless dimming zones, etc. plenty of places to cut cost while 99% of buyers won't care one bit.
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27", pass.
32" for 800 USD... pass when the same sized monitor in IPS costs 200 USD.
27" for 700 USD... lol, what else to even say.
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***** are you even serious or trolling? I seriously hope you're trolling. Show me a $200 32 inch IPS that has 1440p and 240Hz, any IPS with those specs that exists in that size is not going to be $200, not even ****en close.
And the upcoming 27" 1440p 240Hz IPS from Acer is going to cost $850+ based on early Taobao listings. Quit trolling with your unrealistic prices. $200 my ass.

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***** are you even serious or trolling? I seriously hope you're trolling. Show me a $200 32 inch IPS that has 1440p and 240Hz, any IPS with those specs that exists in that size is not going to be $200, not even ****en close.
And the upcoming 27" 1440p 240Hz IPS from Acer is going to cost $850+ based on early Taobao listings. Quit trolling with your unrealistic prices. $200 my ass.



is there even a 32" 1440p >120hz 16:9 IPS with a non-curved panel? I've been keeping an eye out for a while and keep coming up empty.

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