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Very nice, you're looking at an additional 7.75c drop on average.
Pretty cool for water coolers...I wouldn't try it with Swiftech blocks, or AIO's cause they have mounting mechanisms that stop automatically once you reach the optimum contact pressure (which is at IHS level)...hence bad or no contact withuot ihs.
Cool! Any 580 to freeze? Or 7970's? You said 11...
That guy has some smarts lol, but the glycol part doesn't work like that. It's better for water chillers or aio's but distilled performs better for regular water.
Slap him and make him mod an AC unit into a phase one, all he's gotta do is replace the evaporator with a cold plate and calibrate the unit properly. He knows how already...
Oh, and you gotta figure out a way to go below the temp control limit, which will be warmer than 0c lol
+1, Hold the ihs in place with your finger whilst clamping the latch down, and avoid touching those gold pins when placing the ihs higher up on the pcb.
Awesome man! Hope your imc is intact...Good luck!

I do have some 580s, will have to run one for 3dmark01 but tonight going for 3d11 & whatever other 3d I have time for. See what the card can do cold before the new 3dmark drops tomorrow.
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what exactly would i be soldering?

@Stu-Crossfire : very nice mate

Don't solder it, you want to insulate the exposed spots, not increase the surface area of spots that can potentially short out.

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I do have some 580s, will have to run one for 3dmark01 but tonight going for 3d11 & whatever other 3d I have time for. See what the card can do cold before the new 3dmark drops tomorrow.
Don't solder it, you want to insulate the exposed spots, not increase the surface area of spots that can potentially short out.

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Going from AS5 to CLU/CLP will be a dramatic temp drop, just on the ihs even. As in as big a temp drop as going from a hyper 212 to an h80, maybe even high end cooling like an nh-d14. AS5 is just so terrible, it's been terrible for a long time (dont you have some stock paste you can use instead, like what came with some good heatsink you bought or something?). 13 years ago it was good, but 13 years ago the pentium 3 or whatever was great too.

On top of that, going to not just a high end ceramique, but a premium thermal solution like CLU/CLP, you'll literally get temp drops of 10-20*C when used just on the IHS instead of as5. Why would you buy a 13 year old thermal paste, I can assure you many other companies, and even arctic silver, have been able to figure out a better paste. The idea that pastes don't make a difference is partially wrong - yes, the difference between modern, high end pastes is very little, but as5 is not modern, and it wasn't even high end 10 years ago. Then, CLU/CLP is more in line with phobya hegrease, ic diamond, indigo extreme, than pk-3, mx-4, nh-t1 - it's an extreme paste.

You don't have to hope. It's guaranteed your temps will be dramatically different if you use a decent paste on the IHS over as5. It's not just a couple degrees lost using as5... it's huge. I literally saw bigger temp drops using PK-3 over PK-1 than from going from a hyper 212 to H50 - and pk-1 is significantly better than as5, and pk-3, while one of the better modern pastes, is not in the same league as CLU/CLP. Then again you can buy a 1.5g of pk-3 for under $4, while 1.5g of CLU/CLP is about $15-23 shipped.

I'm considering lapping my chip. With taking my nh-d14 on and off so many times, I must have scratched the IHS at one point. Kinda nasty scratch, I wouldn't normally mind but it's right in the middle. I'm pretty delicate with these heatsinks, i've mounted heatsinks at least 50+ times by now, especially the nh-d14... must be the mounting system. I don't exactly want to go about lapping the nh-d14 though.

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Going from AS5 to CLU/CLP will be a dramatic temp drop, just on the ihs even. As in as big a temp drop as going from a hyper 212 to an h80, maybe even high end cooling like an nh-d14. AS5 is just so terrible, it's been terrible for a long time (dont you have some stock paste you can use instead, like what came with some good heatsink you bought or something?). 13 years ago it was good, but 13 years ago the pentium 3 or whatever was great too.

On top of that, going to not just a high end ceramique, but a premium thermal solution like CLU/CLP, you'll literally get temp drops of 10-20*C when used just on the IHS instead of as5. Why would you buy a 13 year old thermal paste, I can assure you many other companies, and even arctic silver, have been able to figure out a better paste. The idea that pastes don't make a difference is partially wrong - yes, the difference between modern, high end pastes is very little, but as5 is not modern, and it wasn't even high end 10 years ago. Then, CLU/CLP is more in line with phobya hegrease, ic diamond, indigo extreme, than pk-3, mx-4, nh-t1 - it's an extreme paste.

You don't have to hope. It's guaranteed your temps will be dramatically different if you use a decent paste on the IHS over as5. It's not just a couple degrees lost using as5... it's huge. I literally saw bigger temp drops using PK-3 over PK-1 than from going from a hyper 212 to H50 - and pk-1 is significantly better than as5, and pk-3, while one of the better modern pastes, is not in the same league as CLU/CLP. Then again you can buy a 1.5g of pk-3 for under $4, while 1.5g of CLU/CLP is about $15-23 shipped.

I'm considering lapping my chip. With taking my nh-d14 on and off so many times, I must have scratched the IHS at one point. Kinda nasty scratch, I wouldn't normally mind but it's right in the middle. I'm pretty delicate with these heatsinks, i've mounted heatsinks at least 50+ times by now, especially the nh-d14... must be the mounting system. I don't exactly want to go about lapping the nh-d14 though.

LM Pro = 32.6 w/mk (Right from the CEO of Coollaboratory)
LM Ultra = 38.2w/mK (Right from the CEO of Coollaboratory)
IX = 20w/mK (IX literature)
PK-3 = (11.2W/mk)
PK-2 = (10.2W/mk)
PK-1 = 10.2w/m (frozencpu)
artic silver 5 = 8.7 w/m.k
Gelid extreme = (8.5W/mk)
everything else is less

page one.... and again he's out of paste... he's ordering it as we speak just waiting for it... rolleyes.gif

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3d mark 13?

Good question, all I see so far is it's called '3dmark'.
Looks like it will have several benchmarks in it, like 3dmark Fire Strike, 3dmark Ice Storm, & 3dmark Cloud Gate.
Fire Strike hwbot/MSI competition kicks off tomorrow with the benchmark launch.

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Good question, all I see so far is it's called '3dmark'.
Looks like it will have several benchmarks in it, like 3dmark Fire Strike, 3dmark Ice Storm, & 3dmark Cloud Gate.
Fire Strike hwbot/MSI competition kicks off tomorrow with the benchmark launch.

you gonna compete?

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LM Pro = 32.6 w/mk (Right from the CEO of Coollaboratory)
LM Ultra = 38.2w/mK (Right from the CEO of Coollaboratory)
IX = 20w/mK (IX literature)
PK-3 = (11.2W/mk)
PK-2 = (10.2W/mk)
PK-1 = 10.2w/m (frozencpu)
artic silver 5 = 8.7 w/m.k
Gelid extreme = (8.5W/mk)
everything else is less

page one.... and again he's out of paste... he's ordering it as we speak just waiting for it... rolleyes.gif

On die w/mk is far more important than it is on ihs. On ihs skinnee's testing showed ix then phobya hegrease to be the two best despite phobya having a bit lower w/mk.

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The difference between Ultra and AC5 is about 5c: post #67
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2285595&page=3

Many other tests have shown the difference to be less than 5c.
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you gonna compete?

Still have a couple hundred liters of Ln2 left & have the hardware, might as well put it to use!

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As for the black rectangle at the bottom of the IHS, I guess you can remove it.
Look at the third pic:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2260582
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