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post #11001 of 34708 (permalink) Old 02-04-2013, 09:00 PM
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Us lowly cretins can only dream of doing 5.0 with a max temp of 53c. That is so far beyond all of my testing with three 3770k chips that I can't really relate. People with off the shelf cooling almost always have higher middle core temps.

Naah, I'm just a noob. I guess I got lucky with my chip. What I'm discovering though is that Ivybridge likes two things, cooling, and VCore. The rest of the settings I leave on default, but I'm not sure about 5GHz and beyond, I could use some help. I have good temps, but I just can't seem to get it stable where I can run prime95 for say 12hrs.

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Also @stickg1, what do you think of this construction epoxy?
http://lepageproducts.com/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=71

@swag, If you are looking for something to seal the IHS to the PCB, I have used Permatex Black Silicone Adhesive and it works pretty good. I've even used it with temps as low as 0C. As far as I can tell it seems to be very similar to what Intel uses. It can be a bit messy if you use too much, but wipes up pretty easily before it cures. I found it in the automotive section at WalMart. Less than $4. The photos show a chip that I've used it on and re-opened. EDIT: I would caution against using the clear or white silicon that you would use for your bathroom because that can react with certain metals, but the black Permatex seems to be OK.
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TD,
I would not use it between your ihs and cooler until you are sure you will leave it there for awhile. It is not easy to clean and basically permanently stains everything.

If you go on Coolaboratories web site, they say to use metal polish to remove CLP. I had some Weiman metal polish in the house, so I tried it and it works. I've used it on the die itself, the IHS, and my waterblock. I remove any polish residue with IPA. I also have some Indigo Xtreme Clean that I use for the final preparation before applying TIM. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Mike +rep for those pics!
I might want to get some of that glue....does it hold really strongly? I must consider glues to buy.
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I can't convince myself to get the CLP or the CLU, I don't see much in a point if my max temps reach 82c using IBT on air.

It never touches about 65c on gaming/prime95/folding.

I just don't see a point in it seeing that I already have a decently crappy chip.
why did u delid your chip and not put coolabs pro/ultra? i think that is the whole point of deliding its proven to be the best TIM for what we are doing.

I kinda agree with the guy. CLU/CLP is great but at $15+ it's a little too expensive. Would rather put that money towards something else honestly. I mean considering you can get a high end ceramique like masscool for under $4 for 1.5g.

Makes a nice birthday gift to ask for though. bday is coming up and people asking me what i want. i dont really want anything. i guess i could ask for clu but eh.
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I kinda agree with the guy. CLU/CLP is great but at $15+ it's a little too expensive. Would rather put that money towards something else honestly. I mean considering you can get a high end ceramique like masscool for under $4 for 1.5g.

Makes a nice birthday gift to ask for though. bday is coming up and people asking me what i want. i dont really want anything. i guess i could ask for clu but eh.

Please take Notice to Upper right 5.25 bay cover? 14$ for 30c temp drops vs 4$ for 10c temp drops id think you would have to be rather stupid to not pay an extra 10$ for 20C?
If you want to save a buck for less performance these guys feel the same way... https://www.overclock.net/t/1318995/official-fx-8320-fx-8350-vishera-owners-club/0_20
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Well because im running p95 for now, been running a good 6+ hours now (4.6ghz/1.375vcore, but with pwm phase at extreme performance, vcore voltage response at fast, and llc at extreme, seems to help slightly with stability, hopefully this will be stable where 4.6/1.4v at just turbo llc wasn't at the 19th hour), i got these paint pics of my build.
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memory multi is 13.33 woops


forgot few things - set auto for dram timing selectable (default), and pretty sure profile vtt is 1.05, not 1.30. i know my vtt is always at ~1.06





As for other bios settings, I disabled atheros lan (lan #1 or whatever, not the pch lan), disabled every single sata, marvel sata controller, except sata port 0 (for my single ssd). Disabled via 1394. Enabled rapid start. 90*C warning temp (wow im really surprised these boards dont have a shutdown temp... even my $30 biostar did). Disabled igpu, initialize to peg (graphics card). i think thats it. ram timings read as 9/9/9/24 on the left side and are clearly 9/9/9/24 and all (don't think they'd be the problem given the ram i have, btw when i ran 2133mhz apparently they didnt use the xmp timings, just 9/9/9etc, the board is fine with 1866/cl7/1.65v but not 2133/cl7/1.65v but w/e, i'll worry about that later im pretty sure ram isnt the problem here).
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ah okay where's the cheapest place to get clu i'll get it for my bday -_-
suppose i can ask my gf for paracord, but gotta see if it voids rma or not (just sleeving the last 6 inches of it, i want it to be the stock full cable sleeve where it goes from psu to behind the mobo panel, and only single wire paracord sleeve where it connects).
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I can't convince myself to get the CLP or the CLU, I don't see much in a point if my max temps reach 82c using IBT on air.

It never touches about 65c on gaming/prime95/folding.

I just don't see a point in it seeing that I already have a decently crappy chip.

if your happy with the results you have now, then dont change it smile.gif
but like the others say, thats the best money theyve spent in pursuit of performance, temp wise..


AS5 on the die, 80C hottest core



Liquid Pro on the die, 55C hottest core



i like low temps, even if i would have a "crappy" chip, lower temps is always better
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I can't convince myself to get the CLP or the CLU, I don't see much in a point if my max temps reach 82c using IBT on air.

It never touches about 65c on gaming/prime95/folding.

I just don't see a point in it seeing that I already have a decently crappy chip.

if your happy with the results you have now, then dont change it smile.gif
but like the others say, thats the best money theyve spent in pursuit of performance, temp wise..


AS5 on the die, 80C hottest core



Liquid Pro on the die, 55C hottest core



i like low temps, even if i would have a "crappy" chip, lower temps is always better

That's not really fair to compare CLP to AS5. I'd question how awesome CLP really is if you compare it to a modern, relevant paste. Comparing to AS5 is like saying "ivy bridge is the best chip I bought, you should definitely buy it over your sandy bridge, check out these before and after benchmarks I have of my ivy bridge against a pentium 2"

I wonder if something better than CLU/Indigo and PK3/masscool is out. The nature of TIMs, you dont hear about them until they become irrelevant (as5, clp). I think I'm gonna have to get some CLU - not because I want to, but because if I don't ask for something, my aunt will buy me another hideous sweater. I'll be sure to do a small fft test if/when i get it to really see how great it is (honestly I do expect a significant difference and yea i actually do think its a good value, a drop of 10*C over a high end modern paste like pk-3 maybe, i mean you'd pay premium $60+ for that kind of drop on just a heatsink upgrade).
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