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post #34561 of 34577 (permalink) Old 03-12-2019, 04:43 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by ShrimpBrime View Post
The solder will conduct better than the liquid metal, there would be no reason to de-lid a soldered processor to re-lid with liquid metal.
I literally stated I’m not delidding it lol, what I meant was between the heatspreader and the cooler.

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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilightRavens View Post
I literally stated I’m not delidding it lol, what I meant was between the heatspreader and the cooler.
It took you two paragraphs to state you where not de-lidding in a thread for de-lidding.... how the heck am I supposed to know?>? lol

So, if you use liquid metal, and the cooler is basically a permanent fix, how would you remove the cpu from the board later while the cooler will cover the retention bracket arm?

Would LM be better than TIM = Yes
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Quote: Originally Posted by ShrimpBrime View Post
It took you two paragraphs to state you where not de-lidding in a thread for de-lidding.... how the heck am I supposed to know?>? lol

So, if you use liquid metal, and the cooler is basically a permanent fix, how would you remove the cpu from the board later while the cooler will cover the retention bracket arm?

Would LM be better than TIM = Yes
Yeah sorry didn't mean to come off as salty on it, was not my intention. Anyway I am not sure what 100% I plan to do, its still somewhat in the planning stage as to what I am going to do and am just formulating ideas. Was just thinking about ways to shave off a degree here and a degree there without exponentially increasing my budget on the build to the point where its not worth it (kind of already there but oh well). Anyway thanks, I wasn't sure if it would be like liquid metal on a GPU where it makes one degree of difference give or take.

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Was just thinking about ways to shave off a degree here and a degree there without exponentially increasing my budget on the build to the point where its not worth it (kind of already there but oh well). Anyway thanks, I wasn't sure if it would be like liquid metal on a GPU where it makes one degree of difference give or take.
Don't waste the cash with liquid metal and the IHS on an AIO. Is it better? Sure. But if there if either surface is untrue (not PERFECTLY flat), you lose those gains anyway. You COULD lap each surface, but why spend that energy on an AIO.

Without lapping, there will be maybe 1ºC difference, but it could go either way depending on surface prep and mounting. With lapping, you will see maybe a little more efficiency but the same can be said with TIM. This is comparing good TIM to it, not AS5 or worse.

And there is extra hassle running that crap.

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liquid metal typically voids your warranty too (if you still have your IHS on that is) as removal removes the IHS markings.

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liquid metal typically voids your warranty cuz cleaning it off often times removes the info on the IHS too
it will 100% take it off if u use the scotchbright pad they send.
Too true, it eats into the nickel coating, I've experienced that as well. That or staining, depending on how long it's sat.

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Yep,

I love CLU, but its definitely a damaging product.

I believe we decided it was likely the gallium contents as its an indiscriminate metal eater.

the scotch bright pad they send for prep & cleaning doesn't help the IHS either
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I used one of those reflow solder pads once. It was pretty legit, but a pain in the ass to properly install.
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilightRavens View Post
Yeah sorry didn't mean to come off as salty on it, was not my intention. Anyway I am not sure what 100% I plan to do, its still somewhat in the planning stage as to what I am going to do and am just formulating ideas. Was just thinking about ways to shave off a degree here and a degree there without exponentially increasing my budget on the build to the point where its not worth it (kind of already there but oh well). Anyway thanks, I wasn't sure if it would be like liquid metal on a GPU where it makes one degree of difference give or take.
All good, thought it was kinda funny actually....

So an easy way to shave off a couple of degree is by lowering your ambient temps. See, ambient temps are the end of all liquid and air coolers (providing chilling is not implemented). In example, if your room is 75f, try and lower that room temp to 70f and you should notice the temp drop on your system. This is probably THE cheapest way to lower temps with your existing system.

However, you DID say that you where not going to de-lid the processor. BUT if you do de-lid, you'll drop more than 1 or 2c in most cases while the stock TIM under the IHS plate doesn't do well. Hence this thread
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