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You can even use liquid metal if you wanted to. If you don't mind wasting expensive liquid metal.

Or you can buy your own gallium and indium and tin and just make liquid metal yourself.



The Quicksilver that rockitcool sells is basically gallium based liquid metal but without the thermal transfer properties and it's a lot more runny (Quicksilver does not contain indium).


Agreed. It seemed they didn’t have the quicksilver so my thought was to just go with the flitz or mothers mag polish straight up and use a toothbrush.


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Any other Z390 Aorus Master users here have the Intermittent random C4 Code thrown when rebooting? for some reason When trying to OC my 9900k, it will boot fine, run great for hours, stability test passes without issue, but if I reboot it hangs with this C4 Code. It is not listed in their codes (or rather listed as "reserved").

Replaced the Board, but the issue persists. Someone mentioned a new F10b bios so I am going to try that. The intermittency of it just has me for a loop. I can leave it off for a while, come back, boot up and it will once again be perfectly fine. Reboot for windows updates with no BIOS changes? bam, C4 code over and over.

Also, someone mentioned a Power supply could be at fault? Sometimes the lights on my motherboard will just stay on even after shutting completely down, and it will take me actually having to hit the kill switch on the PSU for it to actually drain power and go off. Would this be an indication of a PSU issue? it did this on BOTH Aorus master boards.
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Any other Z390 Aorus Master users here have the Intermittent random C4 Code thrown when rebooting? for some reason When trying to OC my 9900k, it will boot fine, run great for hours, stability test passes without issue, but if I reboot it hangs with this C4 Code. It is not listed in their codes (or rather listed as "reserved").

Replaced the Board, but the issue persists. Someone mentioned a new F10b bios so I am going to try that. The intermittency of it just has me for a loop. I can leave it off for a while, come back, boot up and it will once again be perfectly fine. Reboot for windows updates with no BIOS changes? bam, C4 code over and over.

Also, someone mentioned a Power supply could be at fault? Sometimes the lights on my motherboard will just stay on even after shutting completely down, and it will take me actually having to hit the kill switch on the PSU for it to actually drain power and go off. Would this be an indication of a PSU issue? it did this on BOTH Aorus master boards.
That last part sounds normal because the lights are an indication that you have power to the board, even though it is shut down there will always be power to it unless unplugged or the psu switch is off, both my Z97 and 790i Ultra do this.

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So what is better conductanaut or liquid ultra for under the ihs application? Or does it really matter that much?

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I have found that when trying to oc RAM and CPU at same time I would get that c4 post code

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I have found that when trying to oc RAM and CPU at same time I would get that c4 post code

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But if you didn't overclock the ram, you *should* be able to apply an OC to the chip without getting a C4 code, right? I am testing different ram tonight, and if that doesn't work I am using a friends power supply to make sure it isn't an issue with power delivery. TeamGroup just requested a copy of diagnostics from CPU-Z (report.txt) so maybe they can help me determine if its a memory chip or not.
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But if you didn't overclock the ram, you *should* be able to apply an OC to the chip without getting a C4 code, right? I am testing different ram tonight, and if that doesn't work I am using a friends power supply to make sure it isn't an issue with power delivery. TeamGroup just requested a copy of diagnostics from CPU-Z (report.txt) so maybe they can help me determine if its a memory chip or not.
Correct. That C4 post code appeared only when applying XMP profile with a moderate oc on my 9600k with an ASRock z390 taichi. Tried same ram in xmp on my older z170 board with similar oc and there was no issue.

My working theory at present is the z390 chipset. And yes I have updated bios to the 4.10 current release.

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I was able to boot without issue. Ran a stress test. All was well. Went into the bios, made a conservative 5.0 GHz 1.325v overclock with all my normal settings, cstates disabled, MCE off, etc. Rebooted without a problem. Ran a stress test for 15 minutes. Reboot. No issue. Dropped down to my normal Vcore , 1.3, and no issue.


So I decide to try and enable xmp, rebooted without issue. Ran all night without a problem. Never broke 73 Degrees. Rebooted over and over, could not reproduce the C4 error. I am going to borrow a quad stick dual channel kit from a friend, GSkill TridentZ so more reputable than my current setup.


I realize that a single stick of ram isn't going to stress the systems IMC as much as using dual channel would, but in previous tests, even with a single stick, I could not apply my CPU OC profile, nor leave the CPU stock and use XMP, much less the two together.

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Hi all, I have a i7-7700k and I just built a custom loop for watercooling and am not getting a great result, I still get around 30% throttling when running AIDA64 system stability test.

I think it is because I didnt design my loop well and the flow is not great, and I also have high ambient temps (we dont have AC at home and now it is around 82F in the house...)

I'm thinking that I can delid and run the waterblock direct-to-dye to help improve the temps. Yes, I'm aware of the risks.

A quick question to anybody who did this before: did you need to sand the corners of the LGA1151 socket to get the waterblock to make contact with the die? I've had bad experiences damaging the pins on the socket and I dont want to take that risk... if I can do this without needing to modify the socket (except for removing the bracket that fastens the CPU) then I'll give it a try. But if I need to start messing with modifying the socket I'm too afraid of damaging the pins again...

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Hi all, I have a i7-7700k and I just built a custom loop for watercooling and am not getting a great result, I still get around 30% throttling when running AIDA64 system stability test.

I think it is because I didnt design my loop well and the flow is not great, and I also have high ambient temps (we dont have AC at home and now it is around 82F in the house...)

I'm thinking that I can delid and run the waterblock direct-to-dye to help improve the temps. Yes, I'm aware of the risks.

A quick question to anybody who did this before: did you need to sand the corners of the LGA1151 socket to get the waterblock to make contact with the die? I've had bad experiences damaging the pins on the socket and I dont want to take that risk... if I can do this without needing to modify the socket (except for removing the bracket that fastens the CPU) then I'll give it a try. But if I need to start messing with modifying the socket I'm too afraid of damaging the pins again...

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You can get waterblocks designed for running a CPU bare die to avoid any mounting issues. But if your loop is poorly designed in that its got poor flow a delid probably won’t help all that much as redesigning your loop.

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