*Official* Intel DDR4 24/7 Memory Stability Thread - Page 1128 - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community
Forum Jump: 

*Official* Intel DDR4 24/7 Memory Stability Thread

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #11271 of 11602 (permalink) Old 01-20-2020, 02:38 PM
OC...D
 
Jpmboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 27,043
Rep: 1318 (Unique: 575)
Quote: Originally Posted by reachthesky View Post
I figured out the issue. It was lack of vcore.

At 2133 memory, cpu is stable 5ghz no avx offset with standard llc + 120mv offset + acdc 1/1.

When enabling xmp, the cpu requires an extra 60mv to be occt large avx stable. XMP also kept erroring unless I increased dram voltage past the xmp profile's 1.35v rating, no errors with 1.4v dram voltage. Should I RMA the kit since it errors unless voltage is above what the kit is specced for?

I appreciate your follow up btw.

I rebooted cl15 4133 with the additional 60mv vcore for stability. non avx occt large temps peaked at 94c lol. It's crazy how a ram overclock can add up to 30c in heat to non-avx loads at the same core frequency. non avx temps without the ram overclock(2133) were in the 60s lol. Just crazy.

The reason why I tried OCCT is because while I was able to pass 3200% karhu and 600% HCI without any errors with my cl15 4133 profile, I was still getting memory related bsods after passing those tests. Turns out karhu was a waste of money.
RMA? Based on bios-set voltages? Have you measured the actual voltage with a DMM? Remember, an OC on ram is an OC on the CPU too - as you discovered. It is very "normal" for XMP to require voltage tweaks for real stability.
I'm curious - how do you know the BSODs were memory related after HCi or RT? .. and not CPU IO ?

ASUS Z370/Z390 Motherboard Support Thread, Coffee Lake OC Guide
GPUs For Sale
X299
(32 items)
x99
(17 items)
Z370
(20 items)
CPU
7980XE
CPU
7740X
CPU
10980XE
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage VI Apex
Motherboard
Gigabyte Aorus G9
Motherboard
Rampage VI Extreme Omega
GPU
3x Nvidia Titan V
GPU
GTX 1080
GPU
2 2080Ti FE / EK Vector Blocks
RAM
G. Skill 2x(2x8GB) 3600c15 @4000c16
RAM
Two 4x8GB GS 3600c16 kits @ 4200c17
Hard Drive
INtel Optane 900P
Hard Drive
2x256 Plextor Raid 0
Hard Drive
WD Raptor
Hard Drive
Samsung Sm 961
Power Supply
Corsair AX1500i
Power Supply
EVGA 850 G3
Power Supply
Seasonic Platinum 1300W
Cooling
Aquacomputer GiGant 1680 (4x420)
Cooling
Koolance EXC-800
Cooling
2x Koolance -3K3U
Case
Microcool Banchetto 101 (Alu)
Case
Corsair 570X
Case
Lian Li
Case
Case Labs
Operating System
Win 10 Pro
Operating System
Win 7 Pro
Monitor
ROG Swift
Monitor
AOC 144Hz
Monitor
TCL 55" 4K60
Keyboard
Ducky
Mouse
Spatha
CPU
6950X
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage V Extreme-10
GPU
AsRock Radeon VII / Blkski Block
RAM
G Skill 8x8GB 3200c14 @3400c13
Hard Drive
Samsung 960 Pro
Optical Drive
ASUS BR/DVD/CD
Power Supply
Corsair AX1500i
Cooling
2x360 Aq Copper Rads
Cooling
Aquaero 6
Cooling
Koolance ERM-3K3U (9-fan mora)
Cooling
Ek Full Cover MB waterblock
Case
CaseLabs Mercury S8
Operating System
Win 10 Pro
Operating System
Win 7 Pro
Monitor
AGON 32 inch
Keyboard
Das Pro
Mouse
Logitech G700
CPU
8700K
CPU
8086K
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus X Apex
GPU
Titan Xp
GPU
Titan Xp
RAM
2x8 GB G.Skill 4400c19
RAM
G.Skill 3600c16 4x6GB
Hard Drive
Intel 750
Optical Drive
PLextor DVD/CD
Power Supply
Corsair AX1500i
Power Supply
Corsair HX 1200i
Power Supply
Seasonic Titanium 850W
Cooling
360Rad + Chiller
Cooling
Koolance ERM-3K3U
Case
Corasir 570
Operating System
Win 10
Operating System
Windows 7 Pro
Monitor
55" 4K
Keyboard
HyperX Alloy FPS Pro
Mouse
SteelSeries Rival
▲ hide details ▲


Jpmboy is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #11272 of 11602 (permalink) Old 01-20-2020, 03:30 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
Falkentyne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Riverside
Posts: 6,933
Rep: 425 (Unique: 296)
Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
RMA? Based on bios-set voltages? Have you measured the actual voltage with a DMM? Remember, an OC on ram is an OC on the CPU too - as you discovered. It is very "normal" for XMP to require voltage tweaks for real stability.
I'm curious - how do you know the BSODs were memory related after HCi or RT? .. and not CPU IO ?
He needs to run GSAT, not Karhu. This sounds alot like the IMC/L3 cache is not stable.
If I remember your posts about Karhu, Karhu doesn't test IMC/L3 cache stability does it?

Better tests for this is Prime95 29.8 b6, 112k-112k in place FFT with AVX disabled (crashed threads or CPU Cache L0 errors, this test will test hyperthreaded IMC L3 stability quite well) or 256k-512k AVX disabled (with or without in-place, if in-place is disabled, a small part of RAM allocated, like 10%).

And errors with virtualized instruction registers (L0 cache) are related to hyperthreaded cores, which is heavily controlled by the IMC/L3 cache. Unless the BSOD is "memory_management", it could very well be related to that.
What BSOD's were showing up? If it's system service exception, IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL or something, that possibly isn't caused by the DRAM itself.

[email protected] ghz, RX Vega 64, 32GB DDR4, Gigabyte Aorus Master, Seasonic Platinum 1000W, Corsair 760T
Alt: MSI GT73VR Throttlebook with 7820HK @ 4.7 ghz, GTX 1070 MXM TDP mod to 230W, 32 GB RAM
Falkentyne is offline  
post #11273 of 11602 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 01:39 AM
New to Overclock.net
 
satinghostrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Singapore
Posts: 106
Rep: 4 (Unique: 3)
Anyone able to better the timings as attached? Got that from @KedarWolf . Running the f4-3600c16d 16gb kit. (2x8gb) Getting in another pair next week. Board is Aorus Master on F11c official Gigabyte BIOS.

Thanks in advance Guys!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	2020-01-20_1579595982162.png
Views:	62
Size:	1.34 MB
ID:	320500  


satingh0str!der
(14 items)
CPU
INTEL Core i9 9900KS @ 5.2 GHz(C) / 4.7GHz(R) (1.36V) | LLC : High
Motherboard
GIGABYTE Z390 Aorus MASTER
GPU
MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X TRIO @ 2,100MHz(C) / 8,000MHz(M)
RAM
G.SKILL Trident Z 3,600MHz DDR4 (16-16-16-36 2T) @ 4,133MHz (17-17-17-38 2T)
Hard Drive
SAMSUNG 970 Evo NVMe M2 1TB
Power Supply
CORSAIR AX1200i (Custom Cables)
Cooling
EK-Supremacy Classic RGB - Nickel + Plexi | EK-FC Trio RTX 2080 Ti Classic RGB | EK-XRES 250 SPC PWM Classic RGB
Case
THERMALTAKE View 71 TG Edition | 10 X THERMALTAKE Premium Riing Plus Fans
Operating System
MICROSOFT Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
Monitor
ALIENWARE 34" Ultra-Wide Curved Gaming IPS LCD AW3418DW (120Hz)
Keyboard
RAZER Huntsman Tournament Edition
Mouse
RAZER Basilisk Gaming Mouse
Mousepad
RAZER Goliathus Speed (Extended) Gaming Mousepad - Stormtrooper Limited Edition
Audio
CORSAIR SP2500 | RAZER Thresher 7.1 TE
▲ hide details ▲

Last edited by satinghostrider; 01-21-2020 at 01:43 AM.
satinghostrider is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #11274 of 11602 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 01:27 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 11
Rep: 1 (Unique: 1)
Quote: Originally Posted by satinghostrider View Post
Anyone able to better the timings as attached? Got that from @KedarWolf . Running the f4-3600c16d 16gb kit. (2x8gb) Getting in another pair next week. Board is Aorus Master on F11c official Gigabyte BIOS.

Thanks in advance Guys!
Hi, you have a good kit, increase a voltage for 4133mhz 16-16. I think its the best first option. If it does not work out then calibrate TRTP / TWR - its 1/2 so try 6-12 or 8-16.
Lalka228 is offline  
post #11275 of 11602 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 05:39 PM
Pigeon Poop Enthusiast
 
wholeeo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 4,244
Rep: 254 (Unique: 187)
Quote: Originally Posted by wholeeo View Post
Can anyone help me push this kit a bit further. I never expected much from this set as it was just purchased to have 64GB of memory but I'm happy I've been able to go from 3200 to 3600 and tighten secondary and tertiary timings. I'm really trying to hit sub 45 latency. I'd be happy with 44.9. The closest I've gotten has been 45.0. Here are my settings.
All it took was a clean install of W10..lol I guess I was due.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	cachemem.png
Views:	7
Size:	147.2 KB
ID:	320694  


{CPU} i9-9900K @ 5.4/5.4/5.3/5.2 {MB} Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master {Ram} HyperX Predator 64GB DDR4 3600
{GPU} Gigabyte Aorus 5700XT {Case} TT P3 {PSU} Evga SuperNova 1200W P2 {Fans} Corsair ML120 Pros
{Rads} EKWB XE 360 {Pump} EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 {Block} EK Supremacy Evo {Monitor} LG 32" 32UD99-W 4K
{NVME's} {1} Samsung 970 Evo 500GB (MacOS) {2} Samsung 970 Pro 512GB (W10) {3} Inland Premium 1TB (Storage)
{Keyboard} Corsair K70 RGB MK2 Blues {Mouse} Logitech G502
wholeeo is offline  
post #11276 of 11602 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 06:17 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
satinghostrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Singapore
Posts: 106
Rep: 4 (Unique: 3)
Quote: Originally Posted by Lalka228 View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by satinghostrider View Post
Anyone able to better the timings as attached? Got that from @KedarWolf . Running the f4-3600c16d 16gb kit. (2x8gb) Getting in another pair next week. Board is Aorus Master on F11c official Gigabyte BIOS.

Thanks in advance Guys!
Hi, you have a good kit, increase a voltage for 4133mhz 16-16. I think its the best first option. If it does not work out then calibrate TRTP / TWR - its 1/2 so try 6-12 or 8-16.
Thanks man! Do you know what voltage I should be pumping it to for CL16? Do you have the full timings and sub timings for that? I dont seem to be able to find Gen. or Nammi's one.

satingh0str!der
(14 items)
CPU
INTEL Core i9 9900KS @ 5.2 GHz(C) / 4.7GHz(R) (1.36V) | LLC : High
Motherboard
GIGABYTE Z390 Aorus MASTER
GPU
MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X TRIO @ 2,100MHz(C) / 8,000MHz(M)
RAM
G.SKILL Trident Z 3,600MHz DDR4 (16-16-16-36 2T) @ 4,133MHz (17-17-17-38 2T)
Hard Drive
SAMSUNG 970 Evo NVMe M2 1TB
Power Supply
CORSAIR AX1200i (Custom Cables)
Cooling
EK-Supremacy Classic RGB - Nickel + Plexi | EK-FC Trio RTX 2080 Ti Classic RGB | EK-XRES 250 SPC PWM Classic RGB
Case
THERMALTAKE View 71 TG Edition | 10 X THERMALTAKE Premium Riing Plus Fans
Operating System
MICROSOFT Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
Monitor
ALIENWARE 34" Ultra-Wide Curved Gaming IPS LCD AW3418DW (120Hz)
Keyboard
RAZER Huntsman Tournament Edition
Mouse
RAZER Basilisk Gaming Mouse
Mousepad
RAZER Goliathus Speed (Extended) Gaming Mousepad - Stormtrooper Limited Edition
Audio
CORSAIR SP2500 | RAZER Thresher 7.1 TE
▲ hide details ▲
satinghostrider is offline  
post #11277 of 11602 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 07:35 PM
Overclocked
 
hotrod717's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Amish Country - USA
Posts: 2,805
Rep: 92 (Unique: 63)
Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
hey bud.. you playing in Freezer burn 3?
I'll take another look. Don't think i have compatible or competitive hardware for that,
Patriot is a no bueno on z270.
,

An old toothbrush is the best thing to remove tim from hard to reach places.
hotrod717 is offline  
post #11278 of 11602 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 08:10 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
satinghostrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Singapore
Posts: 106
Rep: 4 (Unique: 3)
Quote: Originally Posted by Lalka228 View Post
Hi, you have a good kit, increase a voltage for 4133mhz 16-16. I think its the best first option. If it does not work out then calibrate TRTP / TWR - its 1/2 so try 6-12 or 8-16.
Thanks a billion! Will try that when I get home after work.

satingh0str!der
(14 items)
CPU
INTEL Core i9 9900KS @ 5.2 GHz(C) / 4.7GHz(R) (1.36V) | LLC : High
Motherboard
GIGABYTE Z390 Aorus MASTER
GPU
MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X TRIO @ 2,100MHz(C) / 8,000MHz(M)
RAM
G.SKILL Trident Z 3,600MHz DDR4 (16-16-16-36 2T) @ 4,133MHz (17-17-17-38 2T)
Hard Drive
SAMSUNG 970 Evo NVMe M2 1TB
Power Supply
CORSAIR AX1200i (Custom Cables)
Cooling
EK-Supremacy Classic RGB - Nickel + Plexi | EK-FC Trio RTX 2080 Ti Classic RGB | EK-XRES 250 SPC PWM Classic RGB
Case
THERMALTAKE View 71 TG Edition | 10 X THERMALTAKE Premium Riing Plus Fans
Operating System
MICROSOFT Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
Monitor
ALIENWARE 34" Ultra-Wide Curved Gaming IPS LCD AW3418DW (120Hz)
Keyboard
RAZER Huntsman Tournament Edition
Mouse
RAZER Basilisk Gaming Mouse
Mousepad
RAZER Goliathus Speed (Extended) Gaming Mousepad - Stormtrooper Limited Edition
Audio
CORSAIR SP2500 | RAZER Thresher 7.1 TE
▲ hide details ▲
satinghostrider is offline  
post #11279 of 11602 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 08:22 PM
OC...D
 
Jpmboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 27,043
Rep: 1318 (Unique: 575)
Quote: Originally Posted by hotrod717 View Post
I'll take another look. Don't think i have compatible or competitive hardware for that,
Patriot is a no bueno on z270.
,
I got a 580 if you wanna bench LN2...

ASUS Z370/Z390 Motherboard Support Thread, Coffee Lake OC Guide
GPUs For Sale
X299
(32 items)
x99
(17 items)
Z370
(20 items)
CPU
7980XE
CPU
7740X
CPU
10980XE
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage VI Apex
Motherboard
Gigabyte Aorus G9
Motherboard
Rampage VI Extreme Omega
GPU
3x Nvidia Titan V
GPU
GTX 1080
GPU
2 2080Ti FE / EK Vector Blocks
RAM
G. Skill 2x(2x8GB) 3600c15 @4000c16
RAM
Two 4x8GB GS 3600c16 kits @ 4200c17
Hard Drive
INtel Optane 900P
Hard Drive
2x256 Plextor Raid 0
Hard Drive
WD Raptor
Hard Drive
Samsung Sm 961
Power Supply
Corsair AX1500i
Power Supply
EVGA 850 G3
Power Supply
Seasonic Platinum 1300W
Cooling
Aquacomputer GiGant 1680 (4x420)
Cooling
Koolance EXC-800
Cooling
2x Koolance -3K3U
Case
Microcool Banchetto 101 (Alu)
Case
Corsair 570X
Case
Lian Li
Case
Case Labs
Operating System
Win 10 Pro
Operating System
Win 7 Pro
Monitor
ROG Swift
Monitor
AOC 144Hz
Monitor
TCL 55" 4K60
Keyboard
Ducky
Mouse
Spatha
CPU
6950X
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage V Extreme-10
GPU
AsRock Radeon VII / Blkski Block
RAM
G Skill 8x8GB 3200c14 @3400c13
Hard Drive
Samsung 960 Pro
Optical Drive
ASUS BR/DVD/CD
Power Supply
Corsair AX1500i
Cooling
2x360 Aq Copper Rads
Cooling
Aquaero 6
Cooling
Koolance ERM-3K3U (9-fan mora)
Cooling
Ek Full Cover MB waterblock
Case
CaseLabs Mercury S8
Operating System
Win 10 Pro
Operating System
Win 7 Pro
Monitor
AGON 32 inch
Keyboard
Das Pro
Mouse
Logitech G700
CPU
8700K
CPU
8086K
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus X Apex
GPU
Titan Xp
GPU
Titan Xp
RAM
2x8 GB G.Skill 4400c19
RAM
G.Skill 3600c16 4x6GB
Hard Drive
Intel 750
Optical Drive
PLextor DVD/CD
Power Supply
Corsair AX1500i
Power Supply
Corsair HX 1200i
Power Supply
Seasonic Titanium 850W
Cooling
360Rad + Chiller
Cooling
Koolance ERM-3K3U
Case
Corasir 570
Operating System
Win 10
Operating System
Windows 7 Pro
Monitor
55" 4K
Keyboard
HyperX Alloy FPS Pro
Mouse
SteelSeries Rival
▲ hide details ▲


Jpmboy is offline  
post #11280 of 11602 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 09:29 PM
no regurts
 
Kalm_Traveler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 590
Rep: 6 (Unique: 5)
@Jpmboy hey bud this 7960x with the new 8gb x 8 3600mhz CL16 kit h as been rock solid for 3 days now since dropping the SA and VCCIO back to Auto like you said, and bumping the VDIMM up to 1.44v (XMP profile only set it to 1.35v). Not sure if I should try backing cache down from 1.220v but everything seems happy now so I almost just want to leave it be until the 10980xe arrives and I can swap in that R6E Omega.

HEDT Overkill
(13 items)
CPU
Core i9 10980xe
Motherboard
Asus Rampage VI Extreme Omega
GPU
Titan RTX
GPU
Titan RTX
RAM
G.Skill Trident-Z RGB
Hard Drive
Samsung 960 Pro
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 EVO
Power Supply
Corsair AX1600i
Case
Thermaltake Tower 900 - black
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro
Monitor
LG 38GL950-G
Keyboard
Massdrop CTRL
Mouse
Speedlink Decus Respec
CPU
9900ks
Motherboard
Maximus XI Extreme
GPU
2080 Ti Kingpin
RAM
GSkill Trident Z RGB
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus
Power Supply
Corsair HX1200
Case
Cooler Master COSMOS C700M
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro
Monitor
Asus PG348Q
Keyboard
Corsair K70 LUX RGB
Mouse
Corsair Ironclaw RGB
Audio
Klipsch ProMedia Ultra 5.1
CPU
Core i7 9750H
GPU
RTX 2080 Max-Q
Hard Drive
Samsung 960 Pro
Keyboard
Razer Blackwidow TE Chroma V2
Mouse
Razer Mamba Wireless 2018
▲ hide details ▲
Kalm_Traveler is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 13 (2 members and 11 guests)
Nizzen , zGunBLADEz
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off