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post #11561 of 12988 (permalink) Old 02-20-2020, 02:44 PM
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The board is. The CPU probably isn't. What cache freq are you running? Try a waaay looser timing set like 19-22-22-45-500-2T and see if that does boot 4200 or more.

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Quote: Originally Posted by truehighroller1 View Post

Utilize this post and focus on getting your rtl's figured out in regards to getting them set on your board and I think you'll get it stable.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/27784556-post7836.html
Ty, was just checking that post.

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The board is. The CPU probably isn't. What cache freq are you running? Try a waaay looser timing set like 19-22-22-45-500-2T and see if that does boot 4200 or more.
The CPU on the review I mentioned is also a 8700K, but they are on a Z390 Maximus XI Gene board while I'm on a z370. I'm on 4.8Ghz all cores and 4.6 cache.

I've tried ridiculous timings like 20-20-20-47, didn't post even on 4133Mhz

I might try to remove any CPU frequency OC just to see if I can post above 4000mhz, or I'll need to optimize my 4000mhz as best as possible.

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Ty, was just checking that post.



The CPU on the review I mentioned is also a 8700K, but they are on a Z390 Maximus XI Gene board while I'm on a z370. I'm on 4.8Ghz all cores and 4.6 cache.

I've tried ridiculous timings like 20-20-20-47, didn't post even on 4133Mhz

I might try to remove any CPU frequency OC just to see if I can post above 4000mhz, or I'll need to optimize my 4000mhz as best as possible.

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what vsa and vccio voltage ?

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Here's some z370 ram settings with 3200c14, 3500c15 and 4800c18 sticks (all 2x8GB on the APEX X)
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Very nice. I'm looking for a new motherboard and am trying to decide between the Gene and Dark. I see some really impressive memory OC being done with the Gene.
I have no idea how they compare, but in case you want to go Dark don't be afraid. It is no slouch.
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Is there any reason why I've lost performance over time? Is it due to security patches (9900k)? I've tried all stock/auto settings and I'm getting the same lower performance.
The top result is from 04/2019 and the bottom one is today.
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Is there any reason why I've lost performance over time? Is it due to security patches (9900k)? I've tried all stock/auto settings and I'm getting the same lower performance.
The top result is from 04/2019 and the bottom one is today.
Unless you've got something running in the background it does look like you'e taken a hit.
I "upgraded" to the newer patched version of W10 1909 and took a major performance hit so changed back to 1809
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what vsa and vccio voltage ?
Tried with 1.25 1.3 and even 1.35, same results, won't post.

I've also discovered one of the sticks is failing memtest even on stock, but even with only 2x8GB, same results.

I think I'll just accept 4000mhz and try to optimize it.

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Has anyone tested the temperatures of sticks without heatspreaders on 2 DIMM boards? Mine get a little hot even with decent airflow when pushed hard and my gut feeling tells me removing the heatsinks would help clear some space and thus improve airflow and temps. It's just such a pain to remove them I kind of want someone to tell me it doesn't help, lol.
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Tried with 1.25 1.3 and even 1.35, same results, won't post.

I've also discovered one of the sticks is failing memtest even on stock, but even with only 2x8GB, same results.

I think I'll just accept 4000mhz and try to optimize it.
Is it the same stick failing?
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