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post #11581 of 11995 (permalink) Old 02-21-2020, 10:51 AM
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Everything seems good here honestly.

2018

vs now

That's with less overclock on my cpu today and less cache speed.. I'm at 3100mhz cache right now.
Reinstalled 1909 and it's fine now. I don't think I've done a clean install since 1709 so was time for one anyway.
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Reinstalled 1909 and it's fine now. I don't think I've done a clean install since 1709 so was time for one anyway.
Well it makes me feel better about my install too so thank you. Lol

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Quote: Originally Posted by Imprezzion View Post
Haha of course you can .

Mine are even worse binned, Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 18-19-19 sticks, and even these things do 4200 16-17-17-28-280-2T on 1.54v with 1.25 IO 1.30 SA. They can do even more but my 9900K IMC doesn't want to do more.

It's all a big lottery and yes, the chance of a B-Die rated for 4400CL19 doing better is always bigger but a bad bin doesn't automatically mean they can't do good.
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did you get that those are B-die from TB?
Ok, 16-17-17-42 didn't passed, but 4000mhz 17-17-17-42 350 2T passed.

See below the timings and result, is it ok? Any super room for improvements considering primary timings are as low it can be apparently?
Does this means I could probably get better results going 3600Mhz lower timings, maybe a 3600 CL14?

My primary use is gaming.

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Ok, 16-17-17-42 didn't passed, but 4000mhz 17-17-17-42 350 2T passed.

See below the timings and result, is it ok? Any super room for improvements considering primary timings are as low it can be apparently?
Does this means I could probably get better results going 3600Mhz lower timings, maybe a 3600 CL14?

My primary use is gaming.

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help me out here... what voltages and it passed what?
Lower RRD_s to 8 or 6, and set tFAW to 4x RRD_s. Check stability. No sense in trying to tune unstable settings.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
help me out here... what voltages and it passed what?
Lower RRD_s to 8 or 6, and set tFAW to 4x RRD_s. Check stability. No sense in trying to tune unstable settings.
Haha sorry I quoted you by mistake, It was meant to @Imprezzion as he saw my previous results and replied =)

Those timings passed on MemTest86 (boot mode), so these are stable.

The memories are at 1.48v, which I could probably lower. SA and CIO are at 1.3

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Lower RRD_s to 8 or 6, and set tFAW to 4x RRD_s. Check stability. No sense in trying to tune unstable settings.
Update: RRD_s to 8 and tFAW to 32 failed.

I also tried a run with my settings but 300 tRFC and failed.
Looks like this is it for these chips.

A question: when the other kit arrives, so I will be at 4x8GB, what settings I need to maybe relax/change at first if I can't hold these timings with 4 sticks?

I think I read somewhere that tREFI needs to be adjustable depending on the amount of total RAM? Or was it depending of if the memory is 4 or 8GB?

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Not really a rule for tREFI as far as I know because it's very dependant on other timings like tRFC for example.

They do seem to perform pretty poor for B-Die's tho. How hot are they getting? Are there temperature sensors in them that HWiNFO64 can read? B-Die hates temperature..

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After finalizing my z390 24/7 settings(first screenshot) I went back working with my 7820x system.


Anyone got some pointers where to go next for tightening the timings for the x299 system?
That Tuf board is a real struggle compare to the MSI z390 board, every time it fail to boot it's a hassle getting it back up and running
Keep in mind that the 7820 can't get the same read/write speeds as the i9's.
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Not really a rule for tREFI as far as I know because it's very dependant on other timings like tRFC for example.

They do seem to perform pretty poor for B-Die's tho. How hot are they getting? Are there temperature sensors in them that HWiNFO64 can read? B-Die hates temperature..
yeah, either ONE the sticks or IMC is weak.

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Not really a rule for tREFI as far as I know because it's very dependant on other timings like tRFC for example.

They do seem to perform pretty poor for B-Die's tho. How hot are they getting? Are there temperature sensors in them that HWiNFO64 can read? B-Die hates temperature..
Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
yeah, either ONE the sticks or IMC is weak.
They don't provide temp sensors but when I was testing with 4 sticks I measured with my infrared gun and it was around 48/50C, I imagine that with only 2 now it's a bit lower as there's more room to heat dissipate, but still probably over 40C.
I live in a hot place, here's at this time of the year my minimum ambient temperature is 25/27C (at night) and around 33 at day, so yeah.

They are ADATA, which is an "OK" brand, they are way cheaper than a G.skill b-die so I don't expect them to be super good.

But on the review I found the guy was able to reach 4600 MHz CL19-24-24-42-2T @ 1.5V HCI stable 400%. Here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4773221/all (his model is AX4U360038G17-SR80 and mines are AX4U360038G17-DR80, which I'll assume are not as good)

It's probably the IMC, I got a really bad 8700K, needs 1.32vCore to stable 4.8Ghz and needed to delid to get temps under control, which is horrible as we know.
I hope is the CPU and not something on the MB as I'm considering upgrade to a 9900KS at some time this year.

I might need some fan to cool off the RAM once I have 4 sticks back.

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