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post #8061 of 10723 (permalink) Old 01-26-2019, 10:53 AM
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just to remind i have 4 of this memory 4600Mhz on my 4 slot mother board

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thank you for your screenshots i put all your values but unfortunatly it dosent boot at 4000.

- about the samsung profile you make me load it was writen an much more voltage than my DDR 1.45V, and if i am not wrong my memory is an dual chips ? just to ask in case it come from here.

after that i tried to do what told me to test @Dillmiester to check all possibility :

i follow this :

- put at 4000Mhz
- set the "mode" in auto (not mode 1 or 2)
- load the raw mhz profile

it make me boot under winbdows 10 i tried too with 4400Mhz it boot (always at ddr at 1.45v vccio & sa both at 1.25v)

i tried at 4500Mhz it took a very long time but it to boot... but each restart is veryyy long. i tried at 1.5volts and vccio & sa both at 1.30v it look more or less the same i tried those last voltages at 4600Mhz but dont boot at all.


here is my screen timing at 4400Mhz... i tried cinebench but i dont saw any difference compare when i was at 3200Mhz

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Update ^^

- i tried for the moment with the XMP 1 and i answer to the question after that "No" . i did right ? i put my memory voltage at 1.45v (constructor voltage) and i decide like this because i read on other post for high freq memory to put at vccio and Sa both 1.300v and i suceed to boot until 4500Mhz !!! ^^ after that i put on the VCCIO and SA both 1.250V it boot again but it took much much long time than 1.300volts...

- Can you please tell me wich XMP to load ? the XMP 1 or 2 ? (to understand: what is the difference between them ?)

- to boot at 4600Mhz i have to increase more than 1.300v the VCCIO and SA ?
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Update ^^

- i tried for the moment with the XMP 1 and i answer to the question after that "No" . i did right ? i put my memory voltage at 1.45v (constructor voltage) and i decide like this because i read on other post for high freq memory to put at vccio and Sa both 1.300v and i suceed to boot until 4500Mhz !!! ^^ after that i put on the VCCIO and SA both 1.250V it boot again but it took much much long time than 1.300volts...

- Can you please tell me wich XMP to load ? the XMP 1 or 2 ? (to understand: what is the difference between them ?)

- to boot at 4600Mhz i have to increase more than 1.300v the VCCIO and SA ?
Yes I know you have 4x8GB sticks (actually you have two 2x8GB kits - right? (I'm sure 'cause there are no 4600 4x8GB binned kits.

Like I mentioned earlier, 4600 XMP is very, very unlikely to work and, more importantly you are using 2 kits, not one 4x8GB kit - which makes it really unreasonable to expect. G.Skill WILL NOT warranty combined kits to work at their rated speed...
If rawHz is working for you try tuning that (but those timings you posted are frankly - krap. The ram would have higher performance at a lower freq with tighter timings).
Find a stable setting for something like 3600.
1.Download a copy of the AsRock timing configurator for x370 or z390 (from their website) so we can see all timings. NVM - I attached the version that works on my ASUS Maximus XI Extreme.

2.Put a Fat32 formatted USB stick in any usb port so you can use F12 to capture a bios screeshot (rather than a phone pic). Works much better.
3. Shut down, switch off the memok switch, clrcmos, enter bios and load the 4x8GB New Samsung B-die for [email protected] THEN lower the frequency to 3600, lower the vdimm to 1.45 and and set vsa to 1.25V, VCCIO to 1.25V, leave all other settings on Auto. attempt to boot. If it does not boot, lower the ram to 3466, then 3200 if 3466 does not boot.
You need to find some boiotable and stable settings to work from . Again - 4600 XMP WILL NOT WORK.
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Hi, this is my memory configuration, greetings;

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VRAM--1.43V
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
Yes I know you have 4x8GB sticks (actually you have two 2x8GB kits - right? (I'm sure 'cause there are no 4600 4x8GB binned kits.

Like I mentioned earlier, 4600 XMP is very, very unlikely to work and, more importantly you are using 2 kits, not one 4x8GB kit - which makes it really unreasonable to expect. G.Skill WILL NOT warranty combined kits to work at their rated speed...
If rawHz is working for you try tuning that (but those timings you posted are frankly - krap. The ram would have higher performance at a lower freq with tighter timings).
Find a stable setting for something like 3600.
1.Download a copy of the AsRock timing configurator for x370 or z390 (from their website) so we can see all timings. NVM - I attached the version that works on my ASUS Maximus XI Extreme.

2.Put a Fat32 formatted USB stick in any usb port so you can use F12 to capture a bios screeshot (rather than a phone pic). Works much better.
3. Shut down, switch off the memok switch, clrcmos, enter bios and load the 4x8GB New Samsung B-die for [email protected] THEN lower the frequency to 3600, lower the vdimm to 1.45 and and set vsa to 1.25V, VCCIO to 1.25V, leave all other settings on Auto. attempt to boot. If it does not boot, lower the ram to 3466, then 3200 if 3466 does not boot.
You need to find some boiotable and stable settings to work from . Again - 4600 XMP WILL NOT WORK.

hi @Jpmboy and thank you for your link again ^^

please escuse my bad english and knowledge in memory OC in case i dont understand well to an question, request, is because i understand wrong

before i answer do you see the post of @Falkentyne in my original topic ?look he have something very interesting ^^ https://www.overclock.net/forum/27825790-post21.html



Yes is right i have two 2x8GB kits. and i was lucky the serial number are following on 4 memorys mean for exemple : xxxxx5 xxxxx6 xxxxx7 xxxxx8. i dont know if it will help to be stable...?

to make you the rights screens:
when you said <Find a stable setting for something like 3600> is to work on a base and after rise to 4xxxMhz ? i hope yes because if not i was totaly stupid to bought those kit who cost me crazy money... :/

If not is better to work on the timing i have when i load the XMP 1 and select manualy 4400Mhz no ? because i dont know about what timing you said they are bad the profile i load with RAW Mhz and make the screen of cpu-z. or the last picture i upload of the profile XMP 1 where we can read 18-22-22-42-1. because like i said when i load this profile and select just that manualy 4400Mhz (i think at VCCIO & SA at 1.250v both, i dont tried under) it boot and i am using the computer at this speed since yesterday.
But when i make an cinebench test ""i think"" i almost not gain or little tigny compare to when i was at 3200 or 3600Mhz (i dont know if we see gain at cinbench for that...)


when you said at number 3 :
<<3. Shut down, switch off the memok switch, clrcmos, enter bios and load the 4x8GB New Samsung B-die for [email protected] THEN lower the frequency to 3600, lower the vdimm to 1.45 and and set vsa to 1.25V, VCCIO to 1.25V, leave all other settings on Auto. attempt to boot. If it does not boot, lower the ram to 3466, then 3200 if 3466 does not boot.>>

i already since you ask me to do switch off the memok switch, clrcmos. do i need to do that again ? because i must everytimes put back all the settings of cpu etc.

i hope with your great help and other will be close of 4600Mhz to justify this crazy price who for the moment i throw in trash.... :/
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- Do you think Asus will add in there QVL the G.Skill4600Mhz ? if yes this will solve my problem i mean in 2x8gb and give the best timing freq performences ?

- on there actualy QVL list they have few 4400Mhz not yet listed... how is possible ? :

Asus QVL : (at the end of the pdf) https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...y_QVL_0108.pdf


DDR4 4400 Qualified Vendors List (QVL) G.SKILL: --> those 3 Kits are by 4 mean 1 kit of 4x8gb = 32Gb

F4-4400C18Q-32GTZR --> Trident Z RGB
F4-4400C18Q-32GTRG --> Trident Z Royal Gold
F4-4400C18Q-32GTRS --> Trident Z Royal Silver

- Just to know Do you think the Performences will be better for an quad 4400Mhz compare of what i can hope to have with my actual 4600Mhz not official quad kit ?

- same question about this quad kit 32gb 4266mhz CAS 17-18-18-38 (single side) https://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4...gtzr#tabs-spec

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The QVL list is just the kits tested it does not mean that it is not compatible
My kit (2kits 2x8Gb 4400 C19), is not in the list and works very well

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Non RGB Trident Z sticks at 3600Mhz and beyond is PCB type A1 right?
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Non RGB Trident Z sticks at 3600Mhz and beyond is PCB type A1 right?
Non-rgb... yes.

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Non RGB Trident Z sticks at 3600Mhz and beyond is PCB type A1 right?
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Non-rgb... yes.
What does PCB type A1 mean? What are the other types? Any references I could read?

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