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here is 4133 sucess
okay in bios - to start let's change

tWR to 18
tRFC to 425 (you can try 374)
tRTP to 8
tFAW to 36 (we'll lower this once we see it RDD_s can be lower... later)

try these in sequence, save a asrock TC snip if each will boot and post back (i need to see th eeffect on rtl/iol). Feel free to test stability "at your perference"
run an AID64memory test to see if there is benefit. Honestly, for 24/7 4133c16 is pretty damn good!

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post #8122 of 9447 (permalink) Old 01-30-2019, 05:48 PM
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ok finaly i think i understood then i edit my question where i dont understood ^^

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In fact, A1 at the top, A2 at the bottom

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The RGB and Royal 4600 C18 1.45v kit are A2
Not sure for others
I think the top one is A0, and A1 is more loose and more similar than A2.

Left is A0, Right is A1.
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I think the top one is A0, and A1 is more loose and more similar than A2.

Left is A1, Right is A0.
You're sure ?

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okay in bios - to start let's change

tWR to 18
tRFC to 425 (you can try 374)
tRTP to 8
tFAW to 36 (we'll lower this once we see it RDD_s can be lower... later)

try these in sequence, save a asrock TC snip if each will boot and post back (i need to see th eeffect on rtl/iol). Feel free to test stability "at your perference"
run an AID64memory test to see if there is benefit. Honestly, for 24/7 4133c16 is pretty damn good!
Hi then finaly i understand how to do what you asked me the name are totaly different in asus bios but i found with the asrok soft

then everythings boot even at tRFC 374

- i had problem with tWR 18 when in bios i enter 18 (i back after an restart to the bios to check and yes = 18) it display as you can see on my screens 19.... then i keep like this and make an bench after reboot enter tRFC 374 i bench after the tRTP 8 i bench after tFAW 36 i bench.... AND finaly i went back to the tWR and i put 17 and under widnows the asrok soft show me 18 when suposed 17... look is 1 unit difference i dont know if the bios bug or the software asrock...

for the bench can you tell wich area to look in priority to compare easly the speed between the bench ?

i will make the same stability test of 1hour when i will have an short time but i dont know finaly what to keep for the tWR... 18 in bios and display 19 in soft ot 17 and in soft display 18...?


i post the screenshots in the sequence i describe: (the first is the basic bench at 4133Mhz). every picture have an name file describe the test timing etc..
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waiting next steps i make 2 stability test of the same line 1 hour for each

the one where i put tWR 17 on bios to display on asrok soft tWR 18 it pass with Sucess ! (i dont know if usefull to test this timing but i will test again for 1h to be sur)

but the one in bios tWR 18 it display in soft asrok tWR 19 it Failed and show those error: (i fault more is small more is fast and make problem..)

<<<<<<<<<<<<
Log: Seconds remaining: 10
Log: Thread 1 found 7 hardware incidents
Stats: Found 7 hardware incidents
Stats: Completed: 131307168.00M in 3600.52s 36468.93MB/s, with 7 hardware incidents, 0 errors
Stats: Memory Copy: 131307168.00M at 36471.33MB/s
Stats: File Copy: 0.00M at 0.00MB/s
Stats: Net Copy: 0.00M at 0.00MB/s
Stats: Data Check: 0.00M at 0.00MB/s
Stats: Invert Data: 0.00M at 0.00MB/s
Stats: Disk: 0.00M at 0.00MB/s

Status: FAIL - test discovered HW problems
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EDIT / UPDATE:

then no error on the one who succed before... but dont think this information is usefull..


Log: Seconds remaining: 20
Log: Seconds remaining: 10
Stats: Found 0 hardware incidents
Stats: Completed: 131380504.00M in 3600.52s 36489.29MB/s, with 0 hardware incidents, 0 errors
Stats: Memory Copy: 131380504.00M at 36491.51MB/s
Stats: File Copy: 0.00M at 0.00MB/s
Stats: Net Copy: 0.00M at 0.00MB/s
Stats: Data Check: 0.00M at 0.00MB/s
Stats: Invert Data: 0.00M at 0.00MB/s
Stats: Disk: 0.00M at 0.00MB/s

Status: PASS - please verify no corrected errors

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look i dont make the right test lol ^^

waiting that i found a new test reveiw of my memory (but in dual only) at 4000mhz and the bench are better this make me sad when i see the different of money lol but the tuning of memory is not finish then i cross finger to have much better speed

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...-16GTRS/7.html

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Using two sticks from a 4x8GB G.Skill [email protected] set, running on a ASRock Z390 Taichi with an i7-9700k, I was able to get them to run at either 4000MHz or 4133MHz with stability. No amount of voltage up to 1.50V or timings would boot at 4200MHz, so 4133Mhz seemed to be the max for these sticks, mobo and processor.

I could get tighter timings at 4000MHz than at 4133MHz that resulted in better performance numbers in AIDA64 memory benchmark and easier stability so that's what I decided to go with for 24/7 use. Here's the data:

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DRAM voltage 1.45V
VCCIO 1.18V
VCCSA 1.18V

Tested for stability with overnight runs in both RAMTest and PassMark's MemTest86 and 30 minute run in GSAT.
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new bios for my asus maximus XI extreme

change:

Version 0805 2019/02/017.94 MBytes

ROG MAXIMUS XI EXTREME BIOS 0805
01. Improved DRAM stability
02. Supported JEDEC standard DDR4 32GB memory
03. Updated RST driver
04. Update ME FW
05. Improve system performance
06. Improved DRAM stabilit

------------------------------

do you think it will help ?


EDIT: i just Update my bios but wait Help instructions for next steps of oc my memory. hope this bios will not make my test data i post before usless.. :/

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