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Just curious ... why does the OP say to only run Karhu's RAM test for only an hour? I've mostly been setting my RAM OCs, using it for a couple days, and then if that seems fine I'll run RAM Test overnight. Twice now I've failed after the 6-8 hour mark.
That's usually good enough for web browsing and general gaming.

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Now that is weird. I know I had a similar issue with my ASRock Z170 Pro4S where it just plain hated changing the FCLK too far above/below 800MHZ and would cause No Post/slow boot times; but I never tried to figure if any voltages or other ratios changed that behaviour. Have you tried tweaking the SA/IO voltages and see if this affects stability with FCLK? Given the high loads being placed on the IMC with RAM OCs, I wouldn't be surprised if the "System Agent Clock" is getting cranky and wants more voltage for a 25% higher clock speed than base 800 MHz. That's just idle speculation though; I haven't personally heard of instability from FCLK during ram/cache testing before.
I ran geekbench 4 and unigine superposition bench to see what difference there was between 800 and 1000mhz fclk and I didn't notice the scores changing so i'm just going to leave it at 800. My vccssa was at 1.248v which is enough for me.

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Just curious ... why does the OP say to only run Karhu's RAM test for only an hour? I've mostly been setting my RAM OCs, using it for a couple days, and then if that seems fine I'll run RAM Test overnight. Twice now I've failed after the 6-8 hour mark.
you have to understand... the idea was to have folks run ANYTHING that actually did test a ram OC.
Stability is very context dependent. IMO, to isolate the RAM component, use GSAT. For a more RAM/Cache-IO load, use HCi. Ramtest does a fine job of trying to tie both aspects, but IMO, not as good gsat+ HCi

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I ran geekbench 4 and unigine superposition bench to see what difference there was between 800 and 1000mhz fclk and I didn't notice the scores changing so i'm just going to leave it at 800. My vccssa was at 1.248v which is enough for me.
likely because neither is saturating the fclk bus. - right?
this is the system agent multiplier. bclk x fclk = system agent bus frequency.

With100 BCLK you can set the FCLK to 1000MHz (10x) which = 1000MHz System Agent clock
125 and higher you can leave this on auto
if the system is failing at fclk 1000 ... disable bclk spreadsprectrum and tune VCCSA (both lower and higher)

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you have to understand... the idea was to have folks run ANYTHING that actually did test a ram OC.
Stability is very context dependent. IMO, to isolate the RAM component, use GSAT. For a more RAM/Cache-IO load, use HCi. Ramtest does a fine job of trying to tie both aspects, but IMO, not as good gsat+ HCi

What do you mean by "not as good" ? Not as quick or not as thorough?

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What do you mean by "not as good" ? Not as quick or not as thorough?
it's certainly quicker than running 2 tests. And not as thorough as running 2 test. But certainly better than running none.
IMO, GSAT is best for testing the RAM only.

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Just curious ... why does the OP say to only run Karhu's RAM test for only an hour? I've mostly been setting my RAM OCs, using it for a couple days, and then if that seems fine I'll run RAM Test overnight. Twice now I've failed after the 6-8 hour mark.
As others have mentioned, the context of stability depends on ones use case. The idea of the thread was for users to engage and to gauge with each other where both the platform limits are as well as those of their own hardware. Having users endlessly chasing a flipped bit after large amounts of coverage isn't normally difficult to dial out, either.

Some users can accept these things for what they are, others have a hard time comprehending the physical elements that are synonymous with running these things out of spec. Running these tests for a certain amount of coverage is fine, otherwise, it's easy to end up chasing your tail. No overclock is 100% unconditional. Of course, OC A can be more stable than OC B, that doesn't mean it's without condition.

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