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post #3711 of 3737 (permalink) Old 04-13-2019, 02:16 PM
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Boards that fully support all of the Broadwell features (BIOS) are ASUS ones.

i7-4790K 4.8/4.4 GHz core/cache (non AVX) @ Conductonaut | NH-D15S @ Conductonaut | Maximus VII Hero (Z97)
Trident X 32 GB (4x8) 2400 MHz 10-11-12-18-204-1 (F3-2400C10Q-32GTX) (Samsung ICs)
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post #3712 of 3737 (permalink) Old 04-14-2019, 01:54 PM
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Yeah, no. In example Maximus VII Hero is broken when paired with 5775c, proven on two people here, I also had two different M7H, so that makes 3 boards total. My current board only has broken power limits (not applying, Intel XTU is required) and eDRAM is limited to x20 multiplier.

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EVGA GeForce GTX660 2048MB DDR5/192bit SuperClocked 1101MHz/1505MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by kithylin View Post
You can't directly compare the L4 cache to DDR4 speed because they won't work the same. They're not even the same bit-width on their bus. One is cache on the CPU the other is system ram. Different things. For some reason you don't seem to understand this. Even though people have already explained it to you, multiple times now in multiple posts. But you still for some reason don't seem to get it.
What? So you're indicting the AIDA 64 benchmark results? Based on what? Your opinion?

It's too bad there are Fallout 4 benchmarks that clearly show FPS scaling all the way up to 4000MT/s.
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Quote: Originally Posted by mouacyk View Post
eDRAM is about improving the worst case scenario of cache-misses in L3, by going to 128MB of L4 prior to RAM through the much slower IMC interface. This results in significantly better minimum fps and raised average fps, in turn. May or may not increase maximum fps, due to the lower clock speed.

The problem with TechReport's revisit of the 5775c is the selection and configuration of the games. They were heavily multi-threaded AND GPU-bottlenecked from the stock CPU clocks. Angry TR fans crapping on OCN... smh.
If you don't like techreport's benchmarks let's see some evidence refuting them fanboi.
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post #3715 of 3737 (permalink) Old 04-14-2019, 08:52 PM
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If you don't like techreport's benchmarks let's see some evidence refuting them fanboi.
You just can't resist posting some sort of argumentative or combative reply to everyone that posts anything in this thread can you? The "fanboi" comment even sounds like you're actually trying to provoke fights / flamewars at this point.
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post #3716 of 3737 (permalink) Old 04-15-2019, 04:24 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by BroadPwns View Post
Yeah, no. In example Maximus VII Hero is broken when paired with 5775c, proven on two people here, I also had two different M7H, so that makes 3 boards total. My current board only has broken power limits (not applying, Intel XTU is required) and eDRAM is limited to x20 multiplier.
That's odd. I have zero issues with my Maximus VII Gene.



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post #3717 of 3737 (permalink) Old 04-15-2019, 04:34 AM
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That's odd. I have zero issues with my Maximus VII Gene.

Because Gene is not Hero, duh.

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EVGA GeForce GTX660 2048MB DDR5/192bit SuperClocked 1101MHz/1505MHz
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Because Gene is not Hero, duh.

Always nice to see smart @$$ responses... good job keeping the forum classy.

You were responding to someone that said he/she saw that ASUS boards were generally best for broadwell c with an example of how they were not. Sure your example was a Hero, but the insinuation of your response was that in fact ASUS boards were not great for broadwell c because the Hero boards you used, you had trouble with.



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Two different Hero boards I had behave the same way and some other gal here had EXACT same issues as I do. You can search for my Input in the topic but let's just stay at main point that setting any value of edram manually made it permanently disabled until bios reset. Though Z97 Gamer Pro behave properly, except VCore control was impossible to view as it only gave VID readings as VCore.

PC for all
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CPU
i7 5775c @4.2GHz/3.8GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5
GPU
EVGA GeForce GTX660 2048MB DDR5/192bit SuperClocked 1101MHz/1505MHz
RAM
2x KHX2400C11D3/8GX 11-12-12-32-1T-250
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Pro
Hard Drive
Toshiba HDWD10 (P300)
Power Supply
Corsair CS650M
Cooling
Raijintek Tisis + Arctic Cooling MX4
Case
LianLi 330X
Operating System
Windows 10 64-bit Pro
Monitor
Benq GL2250 80Hz
Keyboard
Corsair Strafe Red
Mouse
SteelSeries Rival 310
Mousepad
SteelSeries QCk Mini
Audio
Audio in Motion SC808
Audio
AKG K240 Studio 1st rev
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Other
Mayflash F300
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Um so 65 GiB/s doesn't beat 50 GiB/s? Face it your tech has been obsoleted and the techreport article clearly underscores that point.
The more you resist to accept that edram is quite better than best ddr4, the worse for you. Btw, it's 65GB/s vs 50GB/s+40GB/s.

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