Skylake-X/Kaby Lake-X Combined Discussion - Page 930 - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community

Forum Jump: 

Skylake-X/Kaby Lake-X Combined Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #9291 of 9747 (permalink) Old 02-06-2019, 05:53 PM
Hardware Enthusiast
 
Mysticial's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 609
Rep: 66 (Unique: 41)
Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
Would cosplay, lol.
Any bets on the number of Chika cosplayers for this year? haha

Quote:
Those temps are very good for stock poop! Under 80c at 4.5-4.7 and very even too! My cores are 21c apart lol
They're throttling in that screenshot - some all the way down to 4.2 GHz. That's what's keeping them at 80C.

Though to be more specific, you can't have a negative distance to Tj.Max. So if it's higher than 80C, it'll still read as 80C. So I imagine there will be transient states where the temperature shoots above Tj.Max before the throttling can counter it.

-----

The part that I find the most telling is that the ones with the lower VIDs tend to be the ones that run hotter and throttle harder.

IOW, the pattern that I'm seeing is:
  • Low VID cores are leakier. But require less voltage to achieve certain speeds.
  • High VID cores are not as leaky. But require more voltage to achieve certain speeds.

Last edited by Mysticial; 02-06-2019 at 05:59 PM.
Mysticial is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #9292 of 9747 (permalink) Old 02-06-2019, 06:10 PM
Hardware Princess
 
Hydroplane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Buffalo
Posts: 1,218
Rep: 20 (Unique: 18)
Quote: Originally Posted by djgar View Post
Hmmm ... is that Lain as your avatar? Are you on the Wired? Just finished binging on that so it caught my eye
Celestia Ludenberg from Dangan Ronpa, but I know who you mean. I never did finish watching Serial Experiments Lain, but it was interesting. I need to buy a few more monitors so my setup can look like hers lol.

I'm gonna try the custom TJMax on mine to see if I can increase my clocks. How does the adaptive voltage work? Is there a way I could reduce the voltage (and thus heat) some of my cores run at? Right now I have all 18 cores at the same clock speed and voltage.

CHILLER DESTRUCTION
Build Log - White Voodoo
Test Bench
(8 items)
White Voodoo
(14 items)
CPU
9900K
Motherboard
Not sure yet
GPU
Titan RTX 2085/7256
Hard Drive
OCZ Vertex 4 256GB
Cooling
Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-2000
Case
Cardboard Box
Monitor
AOC Agon AG251FZ 240Hz
Audio
Built-in Monitor Speakers (3 watt)
CPU
Intel Core i9-7980XE @ 4.3 GHz 1.10v
Motherboard
Asus Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce WB 1080 Ti SLI 2037/6318 1.09V
RAM
G.Skill Trident Z 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4-3200 CL14
Hard Drive
Samsung 960 Evo 1TB
Power Supply
EVGA 1600 T2
Cooling
HWLabs Nemesis GTR 420+280 Rads
Cooling
(7) Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM Fans
Cooling
EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 RGB PWM
Case
LD Cooling PC-V7 280/420
Operating System
Windows 10 LTSB
Operating System
Linux Mint 19.1
Monitor
NEC PA271W 2560x1440
Keyboard
Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2
CPU
Dual Intel Xeon L5520 2.26 GHz
RAM
48 GB Samsung DDR3-1066
Hard Drive
120 GB Samsung 750 Evo SSD
Hard Drive
2 TB Western Digital Green
Hard Drive
2 TB Hitachi 7200 RPM
Power Supply
650W Delta PSU
Case
1U Rackmount
Operating System
Ubuntu Server 16.04
▲ hide details ▲
Hydroplane is offline  
post #9293 of 9747 (permalink) Old 02-06-2019, 07:47 PM
Hardware Enthusiast
 
Mysticial's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 609
Rep: 66 (Unique: 41)
Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
How does the adaptive voltage work? Is there a way I could reduce the voltage (and thus heat) some of my cores run at? Right now I have all 18 cores at the same clock speed and voltage.
I'm not using adaptive. Just offset. So those are the stock VIDs programmed into the chip + 0.030v.

I'm 90% sure the 1.35v+ cores are getting more than they need, and the 1.20v cores are capping it to "only" 4.7 GHz. But the Gigabyte boards don't have per-core voltage control.

That ES 7940X does have a lot more variability than all the other (retail) chips I've played with: 7900X, 7940X, and 7980XE.

Last edited by Mysticial; 02-06-2019 at 07:52 PM.
Mysticial is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #9294 of 9747 (permalink) Old 02-07-2019, 05:02 AM
Overclocker in training
 
ThrashZone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 5,605
Rep: 39 (Unique: 31)
Hi,
Cinebench extreme
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details...-download.html

A little lower than I expected 703 for 4.7 all core just a quickie x99 still down for flush/ rad change and waiting for a fan controller to show up to finish :/
Temps are so-so
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	CB-Extreme 703-4.7.png
Views:	21
Size:	1.70 MB
ID:	252036  


Vaper
(4 items)
CPU
i9-7900x With evo and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
ASUS x299 TUF Mark 2
GPU
Titan Xp with copper Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200P2
Cooling
2-280GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads with D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
Mouse
redragon
CPU
i7-5930k with evo and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
X99 Sabertooth
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Power Supply
EVGA 1000w P2
Cooling
2-240 GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads/ D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 and 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz
Mouse
Red Dragon
Hard Drive
eLeaf MELO-3 4ml
Power Supply
SE US18650VTC6 3120mAh 30A 3.6V 18650 Li-ion Battery - GREENx4
Case
SMOK Alien 220w
Operating System
VapeWild RazzleBerry 50-50-3mg
▲ hide details ▲
ThrashZone is offline  
post #9295 of 9747 (permalink) Old 02-07-2019, 03:24 PM
XOC
 
Dwofzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Land of IKEA
Posts: 323
Rep: 7 (Unique: 5)
Well so this is now happening to me as well for no reason.. Came out of the blue earlier today.

Look at the temps, does 3 cores are going straight to tjmax and the cpu package/PP0 is waaaay up there aswell (I used to se mid 70's at 1.22v 4.7GHz) now this.. And I'm not using LM I use paste so WHAT THE!?

I even booted with the XOC bios and changed indivudual core settings but they just don't care.. core 3,5,10,13 (usually) goes straing to the limit.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	****.PNG
Views:	28
Size:	2.40 MB
ID:	252134  


Last edited by Dwofzz; 02-07-2019 at 03:29 PM.
Dwofzz is offline  
post #9296 of 9747 (permalink) Old 02-08-2019, 01:31 AM
New to Overclock.net
 
legandaryheavyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 7
Rep: 0
HI

I am planning an x299 build. Going for an intel i9 9820x or an i9 9900x cpu cooled by NZXT x62 aio. I can not find much 24/7 all core overclocking results. Maybe in this post there are some willing to share results of temperatures and voltages or can tell me what to expect and tell me if the 9820x is good enough for my use. Noise is no issue to me so the x62 aio can run at max speed. Going for an Asus WS X299 PRO Motherboard the simple version, seems like they do not sell that one in the US but in Europe we have it . Using a define r6 case with the radiator top mounted and the rear fan removed.

My aim is to use 1.15 volt maximum hoping to get around 4,2-4,5 GHz all core at 80C max.....would like to know if this is about right?
legandaryheavyg is offline  
post #9297 of 9747 (permalink) Old 02-08-2019, 03:56 AM
Overclocker in training
 
ThrashZone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 5,605
Rep: 39 (Unique: 31)
Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
I'm gonna try the custom TJMax on mine to see if I can increase my clocks. How does the adaptive voltage work? Is there a way I could reduce the voltage (and thus heat) some of my cores run at? Right now I have all 18 cores at the same clock speed and voltage.
Hi,
That is how you find the good and bad core running same clock and voltage.

Adaptive works fine usually additional turbo voltage is the weird one
Most I've read say adaptive offset Auto and additional turbo tends to vary 1.185 is a good starting point

I like DooRules not sure he's still using it or not but his first recommendation or screen shots he shared used
Adaptive -0.035 and additional turbo 1.185

That works for 4.7 for me
After 4.7 the vid's get to spread out being the high/ low vid gets too great and creates instability
So I have to use by spasific core tuning to rase the low/ lazy core up and lower the high cores to close the gap
Looks like if I keep the vids within 0.015 of each other it works okay.

If core temps get too high I have to back down the core multiplier
Raise the core multiplier on the cooler cores.

I do find it more straight forward to use offset mode first for tuning and after switch to adaptive and play with additional turbo voltage.

Vaper
(4 items)
CPU
i9-7900x With evo and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
ASUS x299 TUF Mark 2
GPU
Titan Xp with copper Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200P2
Cooling
2-280GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads with D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
Mouse
redragon
CPU
i7-5930k with evo and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
X99 Sabertooth
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Power Supply
EVGA 1000w P2
Cooling
2-240 GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads/ D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 and 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz
Mouse
Red Dragon
Hard Drive
eLeaf MELO-3 4ml
Power Supply
SE US18650VTC6 3120mAh 30A 3.6V 18650 Li-ion Battery - GREENx4
Case
SMOK Alien 220w
Operating System
VapeWild RazzleBerry 50-50-3mg
▲ hide details ▲
ThrashZone is offline  
post #9298 of 9747 (permalink) Old 02-08-2019, 07:32 AM
OC...D
 
Jpmboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 25,772
Rep: 1243 (Unique: 552)
Quote: Originally Posted by legandaryheavyg View Post
HI

I am planning an x299 build. Going for an intel i9 9820x or an i9 9900x cpu cooled by NZXT x62 aio. I can not find much 24/7 all core overclocking results. Maybe in this post there are some willing to share results of temperatures and voltages or can tell me what to expect and tell me if the 9820x is good enough for my use. Noise is no issue to me so the x62 aio can run at max speed. Going for an Asus WS X299 PRO Motherboard the simple version, seems like they do not sell that one in the US but in Europe we have it . Using a define r6 case with the radiator top mounted and the rear fan removed.

My aim is to use 1.15 volt maximum hoping to get around 4,2-4,5 GHz all core at 80C max.....would like to know if this is about right?
probably doable. ya can;tr know for sure until you try a specific CPU.

ASUS Z370/Z390 Motherboard Support Thread, Coffee Lake OC Guide
Rampage VI Apex / 7980XE / 2 Titan V / 32GB 4000C16/Corsair AX1500i/Intel 900P

For Sale
X299
(25 items)
x99
(18 items)
Z370 Z390
(23 items)
CPU
7980XE
CPU
7740X
CPU
7740X
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage VI Apex
Motherboard
Gigabyte Aorus G9
Motherboard
Gigabyte x299 Gaming
GPU
2x Nvidia Titan V
GPU
GTX 1080
RAM
G. Skill 2x(2x8GB) 3600c15 @4000c16
RAM
Team Group
Hard Drive
INtel Optane 900P
Hard Drive
2x256 Plextor Raid 0
Hard Drive
WD Raptor
Hard Drive
Samsung Sm 961
Power Supply
Corsair AX1500i
Power Supply
EVGA 850 G3
Power Supply
Corsair HX1200i
Cooling
Aquacomputer GiGant 1680 (4x420)
Cooling
Koolance EXC-800
Case
Microcool Banchetto 101 (Alu)
Operating System
Win 10 Pro
Operating System
Win 7 Pro
Monitor
ROG Swift
Keyboard
Ducky
Mouse
Spatha
CPU
6950X
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage V Extreme-10
GPU
Titan Xp
GPU
Titan Xp
RAM
G Skill 8x8GB 3200c14 @3400c13
Hard Drive
Samsung 960 Pro
Optical Drive
ASUS BR/DVD/CD
Power Supply
Corsair AX1500i
Cooling
2x360 Aq Copper Rads
Cooling
Aquaero 6
Cooling
Koolance ERM-3K3U (9-fan mora)
Cooling
Ek Full Cover MB waterblock
Case
CaseLabs Mercury S8
Operating System
Win 10 Pro
Operating System
Win 7 Pro
Monitor
AGON 32 inch
Keyboard
Das Pro
Mouse
Logitech G700
CPU
8700K
CPU
9700K
CPU
8086K
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus X Apex
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus XI Extreme
GPU
GTX 1080
GPU
GTX 1070Ti FTW2
GPU
Titan V
RAM
2x8 GB G.Skill 4400c19
RAM
G.Skill 3600c16 4x6GB
Hard Drive
Intel 750
Optical Drive
PLextor DVD/CD
Power Supply
Corsair AX1500i
Power Supply
Corsair HX 1200i
Power Supply
Seasonic Titanium 850W
Cooling
360Rad + Chiller
Cooling
Koolance ERM-3K3U
Case
Corasir 570
Operating System
Win 10
Operating System
Windows 7 Pro
Monitor
55" 4K
Keyboard
HyperX Alloy FPS Pro
Mouse
SteelSeries Rival
▲ hide details ▲


Jpmboy is offline  
post #9299 of 9747 (permalink) Old 02-08-2019, 07:13 PM
Hardware Princess
 
Hydroplane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Buffalo
Posts: 1,218
Rep: 20 (Unique: 18)
I tried the offset voltage on mine and after a lot of trouble, it seems to have helped a bit. First I updated the Apex bios to 1602. I didn't know that would wipe out 100% of my bios settings so I spent some time figuring out and re-entering those. I know all 18 cores can run stably at 4.3 GHz with 1.10V, so I knew that my worst core could run at that voltage while the others could potentially be lower. A -0.14 offset would have given the worst cores 1.10v and the others less. Unfortunately, it boots with the offset at stock clocks then once the bios loads it bumps it up to 4.3. The result was not even being able to POST since it was trying to use like 0.83V at 2.6 GHz. -0.13 was the same result, but -0.12 and -0.125 could boot into Windows. Without the boot issue I could probably knock off .015 to .025 more volts, and lower temps further.

HWinfo64 was the only program I found that could tell me the individual core VIDs.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	adaptive.png
Views:	12
Size:	309.4 KB
ID:	252320  


CHILLER DESTRUCTION
Build Log - White Voodoo
Test Bench
(8 items)
White Voodoo
(14 items)
CPU
9900K
Motherboard
Not sure yet
GPU
Titan RTX 2085/7256
Hard Drive
OCZ Vertex 4 256GB
Cooling
Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-2000
Case
Cardboard Box
Monitor
AOC Agon AG251FZ 240Hz
Audio
Built-in Monitor Speakers (3 watt)
CPU
Intel Core i9-7980XE @ 4.3 GHz 1.10v
Motherboard
Asus Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce WB 1080 Ti SLI 2037/6318 1.09V
RAM
G.Skill Trident Z 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4-3200 CL14
Hard Drive
Samsung 960 Evo 1TB
Power Supply
EVGA 1600 T2
Cooling
HWLabs Nemesis GTR 420+280 Rads
Cooling
(7) Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM Fans
Cooling
EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 RGB PWM
Case
LD Cooling PC-V7 280/420
Operating System
Windows 10 LTSB
Operating System
Linux Mint 19.1
Monitor
NEC PA271W 2560x1440
Keyboard
Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2
CPU
Dual Intel Xeon L5520 2.26 GHz
RAM
48 GB Samsung DDR3-1066
Hard Drive
120 GB Samsung 750 Evo SSD
Hard Drive
2 TB Western Digital Green
Hard Drive
2 TB Hitachi 7200 RPM
Power Supply
650W Delta PSU
Case
1U Rackmount
Operating System
Ubuntu Server 16.04
▲ hide details ▲
Hydroplane is offline  
post #9300 of 9747 (permalink) Old 02-08-2019, 09:54 PM
Maximum OCN
 
CptSpig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: West Coast
Posts: 1,489
Rep: 69 (Unique: 42)
Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
I tried the offset voltage on mine and after a lot of trouble, it seems to have helped a bit. First I updated the Apex bios to 1602. I didn't know that would wipe out 100% of my bios settings so I spent some time figuring out and re-entering those. I know all 18 cores can run stably at 4.3 GHz with 1.10V, so I knew that my worst core could run at that voltage while the others could potentially be lower. A -0.14 offset would have given the worst cores 1.10v and the others less. Unfortunately, it boots with the offset at stock clocks then once the bios loads it bumps it up to 4.3. The result was not even being able to POST since it was trying to use like 0.83V at 2.6 GHz. -0.13 was the same result, but -0.12 and -0.125 could boot into Windows. Without the boot issue I could probably knock off .015 to .025 more volts, and lower temps further.

HWinfo64 was the only program I found that could tell me the individual core VIDs.
Any time you update the bios it wipe your settings. Good to run a text file of your settings before the bios update. You should try a per core oc it works really well for 24/7.

X299 RIG
(19 items)
X99 RIG
(17 items)
CPU
i9-7980XE
Motherboard
ASUS ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX LGA2066 DDR4 M.2 X299 EATX Motherboard
GPU
Nvidia TITAN Xp
RAM
G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Model F4-3600C16Q-32GTZKK
Hard Drive
Samsung SSD 960 EVO NVMe M.2 500GB
Hard Drive
Samsung SSD 850 Pro 2.5" SATAIII 512 GB
Power Supply
Corsair AX1500i Digital ATX Power Supply
Cooling
EKWB EK-FC Titan X Pascal - Acetal+Nickel
Cooling
EXC-800 Portable 800W Recirculating Liquid Chiller
Cooling
Phobya G-Changer Xtreme NOVA 1080 radiator 60mm - Full Copper
Cooling
CPU-390I Water Block, Nickel Top
Cooling
EK-XRES 140 DDC 3.2 PWM Elite
Case
PrimoChill Praxis Wet bench
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Monitor
ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q Gaming Monitor - 27" 2K WQHD (2560 x 1440) IPS, overclockable 165Hz, G-SYNC
Keyboard
Corsair Gaming K70 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard — Cherry MX Red
Mouse
M65 PRO RGB FPS Gaming Mouse — Black
Mouse
SteelSeries QcK XXL
Audio
Corsair Vengeance 2100 wireless
CPU
i7-6950X Processor
Motherboard
MSI X99A GODLIKE GAMING CARBON
GPU
Nvidia TITAN X Pascal
RAM
Corsair Dominator Platinum Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Memory Kit
Hard Drive
Samsung SSD 960 EVO NVMe M.2 500GB
Hard Drive
Samsung SSD 850 PRO 2.5" SATA III 512GB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2 Power Supply
Cooling
EK-XLC Predator 360 (incl. QDC) with DDC3.2 PWM pump upgrade with EK-DDC Heatsink Housing - Black
Cooling
EKWB EK-FC Titan X Pascal - Acetal+Nickel
Cooling
Koolance EXC-800 Portable 800W Recirculating Liquid Chiller
Case
PrimoChill Praxis Wet bench
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Monitor
ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q Gaming Monitor - 27" 2K WQHD (2560 x 1440) IPS, overclockable 165Hz, G-SYNC
Keyboard
Corsair Gaming K70 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard — Cherry MX Red
Mouse
M65 PRO RGB FPS Gaming Mouse — Black
Mouse
SteelSeries QcK XXL
Audio
Corsair Vengeance 2100 wireless
▲ hide details ▲
CptSpig is offline  
Reply

Tags
Intel Core I7 980x Extreme Edition Processor 3 33 Ghz 12 Mb Cache Socket Lga1366

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off