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post #9721 of 10160 (permalink) Old 03-17-2019, 10:41 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirWaWa View Post
so you're saying other than lanes, it's not an upgrade?
Hi,
3% looks like a hair bump grade
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirWaWa View Post
so you're saying other than lanes, it's not an upgrade?
pretty slim... but comparing at stock is pretty meaningless - this is OVERclock.net.
The 9800 will not need to be delidded, and the new i9s have a higher ram frequency capability. Not sure why you would buy a cpu that is 2 years old and EOL. That said, x299 is pretty mature, but absent any great increase in socket performance for consumers/gamers, x299 will be viable for some time yet.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
pretty slim... but comparing at stock is pretty meaningless - this is OVERclock.net.
The 9800 will not need to be delidded, and the new i9s have a higher ram frequency capability. Not sure why you would buy a cpu that is 2 years old and EOL. That said, x299 is pretty mature, but absent any great increase in socket performance for consumers/gamers, x299 will be viable for some time yet.
Hi,
9800x isn't 2 years old
7820x is but he already has one so he's not buying it

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Quote: Originally Posted by SirWaWa View Post
so you're saying other than lanes, it's not an upgrade?
Nope, sidegrade at best. Unless you NEED those extra PCIE lanes, not worth it at all imo.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
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9800x isn't 2 years old
7820x is but he already has one so he's not buying it
ah, I thought it was a choice between the two. Yep, not even a side grade considering the time-cost of cash.

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A quick question. I know what LLC is and what it does. However, say I can run a particular OC at 1.22V and a LLC level of 6. Now, that same overclock can be achieved by raising VCore to 1.225 and lowering LLC to 5. From what I am seeing, the setting with higher vcore but lower LLC seems to run cooler in all benchmarks. Does this make sense, or am I imagining things?

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Well I would also like to know from the experts here since I am at LLC6 and was wondering the same.

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Well I would also like to know from the experts here since I am at LLC6 and was wondering the same.
I was actually able to go from LLC6 to LLC4 by raising vcore from 1.22 to 1.225 and temps are a bit (3-4C) lower under load. Wondering if it's worth fiddling with.

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LLC applies to Vccin, not Vcore, because SKX is driven by FIVR. You can either increase Vccin or increase LLC to combat Vccin underrun ("phantom throttling"), but I would recommend increasing Vccin to using LLC. LLC causes higher voltage droops, because of the controller delay, which would result in FIVR undervoltage during transient loads.
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