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post #1591 of 4224 (permalink) Old 12-27-2017, 06:53 AM
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yes,but using those`tests makes it at lot more easier to compare the own chip

against the top notch ones.

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f139/oc-prozessoren-intel-sockel-1151-coffee-lake-laberthread-1175411-316.html

and yes,you can toast your hardware in minutes using those,so be careful.
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Hi to everyone!
I've been reading most of this thread the past two days! Very useful info!
I'm as new to overclocking as it gets...
I'm building my PC as soon as the holidays are over and will be able to buy the EVGA 1080 FTW2 and the ram modules Corsair dominator platinum CMD32GX4M4B3866C18 to complete my list which includes an
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I've already read the posts from member amd7674 for setting his Taichi up to 5.0Ghz....hope it will help when i start building mine!!
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Of course you can lower the standarts until everyone is
in the 5ghz club.
It is pointless to compare these cpu`s as long as everyone choses different stresstests.
I mean,whats next:"i can check my e-mails @5.3 ghz,or what..-lol
I buy a modern cpu which supports avx in order to use programs which benefit from this.
So i need 100% stability even after hours on full load.As i stated before,my cpu is crap
but even this thing does 5.1g easily when i play occt/large or prime/ non avx-non fma3.
worthless testing.

51zeu5p.jpg

I do not want to force anyone to destroy their hardware-but for me:

linx @ max ram usage or prime avx+fma3,or it won`t happen.

As I said, if it passes 30 min of Prime95 small fft I never get a BSOD in any game, anything that uses the CPU. Something happens around the 20 min mark in Prime95 where power consumption, temps and workload/stress gets way higher (as in from 120w to 170w and 55c to 70c). If there is underlying instability, it shows itself right there with a BSOD every time. This hump lasts about 5 min or so and then it seems to cycle back to less of a workload (although CPU is still 100%).

I run it until 30 min just to be sure. The last video where I show 40 min with 5.1 GHz no AVX offset I was distracted on the phone.

I'm not kidding, if it passes 30 min Prime95 it's 99.999999% stable everywhere else. Sure I will get some BSOD once every 2-3 months but those are nearly always related to the display driver.

Prime95 around the 20 min mark is no opening an email, I assure you.

Been doing it this way since 2014.

You don't need to do anything for hours on end, not Realbench or anything else.

Again, even Prime95 is complete overkill. What game or application induces that kind of load?

So its completely unrealistic.

If you take your car to a mechanic, they don't say "ok we need to assemble the ramps and flaming barrels and were going to need to get up to 170 MPH and drop 50 ft. on the other side to test the engine and suspension". No. They will take it for a casual road test SIMULATING THE ACTUAL USAGE it sees.

You feeling the need to run Realbench (because Prime95 just isn't challenging enough!) For 24 hours is the former. Your car will never have to launch some ramp over flaming barrels and then survive a 50 ft. drop at 170 mph and neither will your computer EVER have to endure 24 hours at 80+c of Not Realbench.

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First of all,realbench is a joke-i don*t use it.
you ask for applications which produce that kind of load:
what about 4k video encoding using dozens of effects and filters?
for example people often take handbrake as reference for testing stability
when it comes to this.
as for gaming kiddies,ok they don`t need an 100% rockstable oc;those guys
should invest in fast ram and do some optimizing in order to gain some fps.

so what is overclocking;raising v-core until the system passes the easiest tests?
even my little sister could do that
no its more about testing hours and hours and fiddling with the lowest possible voltages
in order to get an oc- system as stable as the non overclocked sytem would be while
running the hardest tests.Only my opinion-maybe too oldschool.
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If your rig doesn't pass at least two hours of RB with no AVX offset, it is pretty unstable IMHO.

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First of all,realbench is a joke-i don*t use it.
you ask for applications which produce that kind of load:
what about 4k video encoding using dozens of effects and filters?
for example people often take handbrake as reference for testing stability
when it comes to this.
as for gaming kiddies,ok they don`t need an 100% rockstable oc;those guys
should invest in fast ram and do some optimizing in order to gain some fps.

so what is overclocking;raising v-core until the system passes the easiest tests?
even my little sister could do that
no its more about testing hours and hours and fiddling with the lowest possible voltages
in order to get an oc- system as stable as the non overclocked sytem would be while
running the hardest tests.Only my opinion-maybe too oldschool.

"Gaming Kiddie" here, 39, childhood passion, disabled combat veteran. Many of us here are "gaming kiddies" so you might want to keep your insults to yourself.

As far as "gaming kiddies" not needing a more powerful CPU, well yeah, that's why I was seeing a CPU bottleneck in all of the following titles, before and after 4930k @ 4.5 GHz vs. 8700k @ 5.1 GHz.

Dragon Age Inquisition, various areas, one notable village in the Hinterlands with a Griffon Statue, 70% GPU utilization and 60 FPS before, now 99% GPU utilzation and 90 FPS.

XCOM 2, 3D Vision (presumed 3 core bug induced by 3D Vision), looking at ship / menu, 75-80% GPU Utilization and 45-50 FPS before, now 99% utilization and 60 FPS (3D Vision, which is 120 FPS 2D).

GTA 5, looking out over Franklin's balcony at downtown Los Santos in 3D Vision, before 30 FPS, now 52. (I don't play this title in 3D Vision, I just wanted to see if it was playable now).

Zelda: Breath of the Wild on CEMU, Dueling Peaks Stables, before 23 FPS, now 40 FPS. The game went from unplayable to playable.

Mad Max, certain areas around Freya's Holdout, before 45 FPS, now 55 FPS.

Planetside 2, 48+/48+, before 40 FPS, now 60 FPS.

These were just the titles that I was able to get to.

Here's my Air 540, RIVBE, i7 4930k + 980 Ti as of February vs. Chelsea:

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/14520125/fs/11807761#


Back to the insults of immaturity.

Do you enjoy watching movies? Did you go view Star Wars: The Last Jedi? How about I call you a "movie kiddie"?

This equating the lack of maturity with an interest in video games is absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah, mankind's infatuation with simulated worlds is "totally immature".

Real maturity is reading the newspaper and editing 4K video! (The latter, a different form of delving into simulation, is TOTALLY different from a video game!).

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If your rig doesn't pass at least two hours of RB with no AVX offset, it is pretty unstable IMHO.

Oh yeah, my system is getting a display driver failure related BSOD every 2-3 months because I didn't flog it on Not Realistic Bench for 24 hours to ensure it's stable!

It's totally unstable, saying that it was 99.999999% stable was just hyperbole. I just talk out of the side of my cake hole. Don't mind me.

Where can I download Not Realistic Bench?

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"Gaming Kiddie" here, 39, childhood passion, disabled combat veteran. Many of us here are "gaming kiddies" so you might want to keep your insults to yourself.

As far as "gaming kiddies" not needing a more powerful CPU, well yeah, that's why I was seeing a CPU bottleneck in all of the following titles, before and after 4930k @ 4.5 GHz vs. 8700k @ 5.1 GHz.

Dragon Age Inquisition, various areas, one notable village in the Hinterlands with a Griffon Statue, 70% GPU utilization and 60 FPS before, now 99% GPU utilzation and 90 FPS.

XCOM 2, 3D Vision (presumed 3 core bug induced by 3D Vision), looking at ship / menu, 75-80% GPU Utilization and 45-50 FPS before, now 99% utilization and 60 FPS (3D Vision, which is 120 FPS 2D).

GTA 5, looking out over Franklin's balcony at downtown Los Santos in 3D Vision, before 30 FPS, now 52. (I don't play this title in 3D Vision, I just wanted to see if it was playable now).

Zelda: Breath of the Wild on CEMU, Dueling Peaks Stables, before 23 FPS, now 40 FPS. The game went from unplayable to playable.

Mad Max, certain areas around Freya's Holdout, before 45 FPS, now 55 FPS.

Planetside 2, 48+/48+, before 40 FPS, now 60 FPS.

These were just the titles that I was able to get to.

Here's my Air 540, RIVBE, i7 4930k + 980 Ti as of February vs. Chelsea:

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/14520125/fs/11807761#


Back to the insults of immaturity.

Do you enjoy watching movies? Did you go view Star Wars: The Last Jedi? How about I call you a "movie kiddie"?

This equating the lack of maturity with an interest in video games is absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah, mankind's infatuation with simulated worlds is "totally immature".

Real maturity is reading the newspaper and editing 4K video! (The latter, a different form of delving into simulation, is TOTALLY different from a video game!).

**** off scrub.



I am not too much into gaming,i am 53 years old.
as far is know the gain in fps isn`t that much
when playing in high resolutions.bottleneck is still gpu.
saw some tests compairing to the older7700k-was not too impressed.
and yes i am mostly into video editing-my own material.

back to the topic-you talk too much
present a 5 ghz linx screen,takes only 10 minutes-lol
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I run 32gb of ram, so i wasn't going to run it for 30 min a pass. But here you go, same temps as RealBench. It's a old school CPU test from back in the I7 920 days. 49 years old and do have 3 kiddies:thumb:

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here you`ll find newest version:

http://hwtips.tistory.com/1611

check max memory

my temps went crazy,so for me only 4900 mhz 24/7
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