Originally Posted by Falkentyne
No, because all CPU's have to have a guardband region. A CPU can't be sold without a margin for error. And you're 'completely misinterpreting things and putting everything in your own way.
I mean....comeon. Constantly you asked me--over and over--about different AC loadline settings, constantly asking me to explain things I already explained-repeatedly....so clearly you didn't understand fully what was going on. Now suddenly, when someone has a defective CPU sample, instantly you're an expert on everything.
I simply have no words.
Do you know what a guardband is? Considering how many times you kept asking about the AC Loadlines, I don't believe you do.
A CPU that is unstable at 4.8 ghz at 1.30v with LLC Turbo, would FAIL a guardband test at 4.7 ghz (want a worst case guardband test for transient response? Just use an AVX offset with windows background processes that trigger AVX and do a non-AVX stress test). That person's CPU will *fail* at 4.7 ghz. Thus--defective silicon.
You also completely neglected this:
It says 100%. Not 99%. Not 95%. Not 92.001%. 100%. And these are STRESS TESTS done by SL. Heavy load. Not light load like that poster with the defective CPU is doing.
Also, a CPU MUST be tested as STABLE at 4.7 ghz **UP to 100C**, at worst case loads (up to 193 amps current draw, at an unknown amount of voltage, probably around 1.3v). If a CPU fails at 4.8 ghz in LOW load situations at this voltage, there's no way it's going to pass virus mode at 4.7 ghz. That's defective silicon. I rest my case, and that's the final thing I am saying on this matter. Have a nice day.
Why have you made this personal? First you suggest I don't understand things based on me asking about loadlines on a different thread. You then suggest that I think I'm an expert. That's a great way to conduct yourself, isn't it?
Why did I ask about loadlines more than once? I'll tell you why, because you have a habit of dressing up your answers to make them sound significantly more complex than needed to make you appear more intelligent. Intelligence would dictate that one would give an answer simplified where possible so others can understand the information. It's a simple communication skill really.
Despite my education (Computer Science, University), I would never claim to be an expert, so don't suggest that I think I am. We have a standard on this forum, one of which you're not meeting with the way you're conducting yourself at this moment in time, so cool down and keep things civil rather than making incorrect assumptions and acting childish.
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
No, he didnt. But there have been several defective silicon samples posted in both this thread and in the other thread.
CPU's crashing at 4.7 ghz in light load, CPU's suddenly BSOD'ing after a week unless downclocked to 3600 mhz (no bios changes), you name it. One of the first was mentioned over on HardOCP forums.
Anyway I'm done with this topic and putting some people on ignore. I don't have time in my life for this.
Just can't help yourself can you? Conduct yourself better in a more mature way in future. You have to accept that people will have a different view. Doesn't give you the right to turn a debate into something personal and offensive which you have done so with me. Very poorly handled sir.