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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 11-21-2018, 06:11 PM - Thread Starter
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i9 9900k overclocking on Intel XTU

I unknowingly cheaped out on a motherboard and bios settings really confuse me so I have resorted to using Intel xtu. Has anyone overclocked their 9900k using xtu? If so, can you post your settings? I'm a noob
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I unknowingly cheaped out on a motherboard and bios settings really confuse me so I have resorted to using Intel xtu. Has anyone overclocked their 9900k using xtu? If so, can you post your settings? I'm a noob
If you're unhappy with your motherboard purchase, why don't you just RMA it, admit your mistake and ask for an exchange or upgrade? It should still be in the return period.
It's not a good idea to cheap out on motherboards. Never get the lowest end board for something like a 9900K or 9700K. You don't need top of the line but at least get something decent.

I haven't seen anyone use XTU to overclock these newer processors. Most of the people who use XTU are using it to overclock locked down laptops with cancer firmwares with locked down Bioses.

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If you're unhappy with your motherboard purchase, why don't you just RMA it, admit your mistake and ask for an exchange or upgrade? It should still be in the return period.
It's not a good idea to cheap out on motherboards. Never get the lowest end board for something like a 9900K or 9700K. You don't need top of the line but at least get something decent.

I haven't seen anyone use XTU to overclock these newer processors. Most of the people who use XTU are using it to overclock locked down laptops with cancer firmwares with locked down Bioses.
I didn't completely cheap out on the motherboard (I have the msi gaming edge ac), so I think I'm fine sticking with it. Also I've gotten to a stable 5ghz using intel xtu, so all the more reason to stick with the current setup. Thank you for your input though, I will make sure to get the best of the best in terms of motherboards for my next build.
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I hope you got a good deal on that board. The prices I see are around $175...for an 8-phase board that lists DisplayPort like it's a special feature?
Meanwhile the Gigabyte z390M Gaming is only $145 with a 10+2 phase design.


Either way the arch is still the same as Coffee/Kaby in terms of overclocking so the guide will still work just fine:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/5-in...tatistics.html


Overclocking with XTU is going to be about the same as using the BIOS as far as the multiplier/vcore procedure goes. You can use it to get into the ballpark but the fine tuning and final OC need to be in the BIOS to be stable.
If you're a noob you shouldn't be overclocking, you should be educating yourself on how to to it. If the BIOS is beyond you I don't think you can call any OC "stable"...especially since you're using XTU to do it.

There are loads of stress tests out there but the only one that's ever gotten be stable enough to run every game and program I use without issue is Prime95. You should ignore AVX to start with by using v26.6 as it has no AVX. Once you get your core, cache and ram 100% stable then you can take the time to find your AVX offset.


None of this is meant as an insult but knowing what you're doing is a critical part of doing something...if that makes any sense. Also, I'd punt the board and get a better one if you're overclocking. A stock 9900k (just the CPU) is capable of pulling 200w under an AVX stress test, a little vcore could easily make that 250w. MSI also has a bad track record of making some really crappy boards in comparison to the competition. They make some good boards too but I really wouldn't buy from them if there's another option.
People were complaining that Asus was selling 8 phase boards for over $150 with coffee lake so this MSI board is seriously whack for the price. The additional phases on other boards handle more power but they also provide more stable power to the CPU. Most people that switched from 8 phase boards reported stabilizing with much less vcore and in some cases were even able to get to the next multiplier...and that was with an 8700k, now add 2 more cores and 4 more threads plus more cache to the mix. For the price the board is a huge rip off IMO.

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I hope you got a good deal on that board. The prices I see are around $175...for an 8-phase board that lists DisplayPort like it's a special feature?
Meanwhile the Gigabyte z390M Gaming is only $145 with a 10+2 phase design.


Either way the arch is still the same as Coffee/Kaby in terms of overclocking so the guide will still work just fine:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/5-in...tatistics.html


Overclocking with XTU is going to be about the same as using the BIOS as far as the multiplier/vcore procedure goes. You can use it to get into the ballpark but the fine tuning and final OC need to be in the BIOS to be stable.
If you're a noob you shouldn't be overclocking, you should be educating yourself on how to to it. If the BIOS is beyond you I don't think you can call any OC "stable"...especially since you're using XTU to do it.

There are loads of stress tests out there but the only one that's ever gotten be stable enough to run every game and program I use without issue is Prime95. You should ignore AVX to start with by using v26.6 as it has no AVX. Once you get your core, cache and ram 100% stable then you can take the time to find your AVX offset.


None of this is meant as an insult but knowing what you're doing is a critical part of doing something...if that makes any sense. Also, I'd punt the board and get a better one if you're overclocking. A stock 9900k (just the CPU) is capable of pulling 200w under an AVX stress test, a little vcore could easily make that 250w. MSI also has a bad track record of making some really crappy boards in comparison to the competition. They make some good boards too but I really wouldn't buy from them if there's another option.
People were complaining that Asus was selling 8 phase boards for over $150 with coffee lake so this MSI board is seriously whack for the price. The additional phases on other boards handle more power but they also provide more stable power to the CPU. Most people that switched from 8 phase boards reported stabilizing with much less vcore and in some cases were even able to get to the next multiplier...and that was with an 8700k, now add 2 more cores and 4 more threads plus more cache to the mix. For the price the board is a huge rip off IMO.
Thank you for this, what board do you suggest I purchase? I'm fine with anything below 350 as long as it means for qualitative maintenance and stability in overclocks.

I got the msi board for 150 btw

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If Micro ATX is a must the Gigabyte z390M Gaming looks nice. It looks like the best board in the price range, considering the CPU the VRM should be your primary concern and this board is the only one for a around $150 that I'd have any confidence in.
Past that you're looking at simply getting a bigger board, Micro ATX is notorious for skimping on the power delivery.


The MSI board does appear to have a good VRM, probably capable of a good bit of power like the Strix boards but the lack of phases is often noticed when you start putting getting to your 1.4v range. It just struck me as odd that it was listed at $170.

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Is there a micro atx version of the gaming edge ac? I currently have the normal size in a mid size case. Are the Asus rog maximus XI motherboards good?

Also, I'm not a gamer, I'm just looking to get max speeds on all cores for certain multi threaded rendering tasks and topology optimizations. I don't know if my reason for wanting to overclock is relevant in terms of choosing a good motherboard for overclocking, but I thought I'd say it, even if it was to just rule out the presumably presumed idea that I would be a gamer.
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Omg I forgot about this thread. Are you still here? I'd assumed it was micro since that's what I found when I looked it up.
For normal boards you have lots of options. The Extreme4 and Taichi being two of the better budget options. For all I know the full sized version of your board is better. Lmk if you're still here lol

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