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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 02-11-2019, 04:08 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by TheLastHero View Post
Liquid metal. The problem is that it's sitting in the high 90's to hitting 101C, and the thermal throttling kicks in. At that point I just stop the test
Hmmm, that's a lot then. Do you have another cooler that you can test? Maybe a high end aircooler or something like that?

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Hmmm, that's a lot then. Do you have another cooler that you can test? Maybe a high end aircooler or something like that?
Unfortunately no, this is the only cooler I have.

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After looking at the receipt, it's a lot older than I thought... Purchased 3/28/2017. Do all AIO liquid coolers use the "Asetek" pump design? What would you suggest as a good replacement for my H100i? When this thing was working properly, I couldn't even get 4.8ghz out of the 8700k.....which is delidded to boot.
Really? 4.7Ghz can be hit with just MCE right?
Either way yeah almost all CLC use the same pumps and rads. The people that sell them fit them with RGB and fans.
I'd go with high end air, AIO units like the one Alphacool is making or custom water. Swiftec makes a good one but the reliability doesn't seem to be there.

Many were able to get pretty good speeds out of air coolers...fyi high end air is generally better than 240mm AIOs but the 280s and 360s can do a bit better. After the heat soak there is often little difference in most of the reviews I've seen comparing air cooling and CLCs.

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CLC coolers are overrated overhyped overpriced loud and unreliable but some die hard fanboys will disagee with some or all of that
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...lc-cooler.html

A dual tower air cooler would be better option than a H100i its cheaper its just as good if not better its way more quiet and only the fans can go wrong
As for Assetek they are a scumbag company that has a patent on having the pump on the CPU mount which means they have and will sue all companies that have tried or will try to do the same

They should never have been granted a patent for such a loose and undefined concept and its in a way patent trolling
Assetek has a near monopoly on market because of that so dont support them

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
CLC coolers are overrated overhyped overpriced loud and unreliable but some die hard fanboys will disagee with some or all of that
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...lc-cooler.html

A dual tower air cooler would be better option than a H100i its cheaper its just as good if not better its way more quiet and only the fans can go wrong
As for Assetek they are a scumbag company that has a patent on having the pump on the CPU mount which means they have and will sue all companies that have tried or will try to do the same

They should never have been granted a patent for such a loose and undefined concept and its in a way patent trolling
Assetek has a near monopoly on market because of that so dont support them
This is good to know. I'm not a die hard fanboy when it comes to these things, but I was always under the impression that liquid had the upper hand when it came to OC cooling. Not knowing much about AIO's beforehand, of course.

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Really? 4.7Ghz can be hit with just MCE right?
Either way yeah almost all CLC use the same pumps and rads. The people that sell them fit them with RGB and fans.
I'd go with high end air, AIO units like the one Alphacool is making or custom water. Swiftec makes a good one but the reliability doesn't seem to be there.

Many were able to get pretty good speeds out of air coolers...fyi high end air is generally better than 240mm AIOs but the 280s and 360s can do a bit better. After the heat soak there is often little difference in most of the reviews I've seen comparing air cooling and CLCs.
What's MCE? After messing around stress testing with IBT @ stock CPU settings the max temp hit 93C, with an average of 79C. This is on IBT's "Very high" setting/10 runs. One of the tubes on the cooler feels slightly warm, while the other doesn't. I'm so confused right now as to what the hecks wrong. This whole temp issue has been right out of the blue, and only noticed when updating to the latest bios version, and having to setup my overclock again, and stress test it....

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Im currently running custom loop with i7-7700k @ 4.7-5.0GHz, GTX1080Ti SC and an EK240 Coolstream SE.


It's all being driven by the Pump from a Corsair, I think it was originally an H110i.
The pump is just temporary untill I get around to having a custom res. machined for...a more scalable pumping solution.


I write this to tell you that last week, when I received the 2nd (of 3 total) fittings package I bled and reconfigured my loop then had an airlock in that pump.
Its very lucky I was dealing with an open case design because, even full access including ability to invert and shake the pump, it took about 2 hours to clear that airlock!!

It gets noisy, rev's its guts out and is a total pain in the butt to get it fully primed.

During all that time it pumps barely a teaspoon of water over 5 seconds, but I must say, its designed never to be opened and it worked flawlessly for a year or so when sealed in it's original state (untill I pulled it apart )


If yours has got an air bubble locked in there it could be a source of alot of your problems. For the cash and pain you could spare yoursel I would seriously recommend just replacing with a similar AIO unit, however FYI there is a fill/bleed port under the circuit board if you have some skills with tools and a soldering iron...

I highly recommend not to remove the screws that go are on the face where the copper interfaces with the CPU though, they are done up very tight, with quite shallow countersink heads, and made of poor material-I had an embarrisingly high destruction rate on those.



Asetek has the patent for a pump mounted to the cpu cooling block.....so pretty much all Corsair and similar styled AIO units are made by Asetek to the vendors performance and branding specifications.
Of course as a result of blanacing a brands variables such as, size, weight, cost, and ....bling-ness there are numerous differences in performance, but fairly minor I believe.
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For the cash and pain you could spare yoursel I would seriously recommend just replacing with a similar AIO unit
This is what I'm thinking of doing, assuming that there's a serious issue with my current AIO...which seems to be the case. I have a Corsair 400C case, which isn't too accommodating for a giant air cooler. For that reason, and being that I like the clean look of AIO units in windowed cases is why I went with it in the first place. I'm weary of them now though, being that a lot of people online claim that they don't last more than a few years....maybe 5 max if you're lucky, due to all the things that can go wrong with em.

Being that I live in Canada, RMA'ing my current unit to corsair is probably gonna cost a pretty penny. Don't know if it'll even be worth it

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If you like the look of a CLC cooler but dont like them because of the poor quality reliability and performance both EK, Swiftech and Alphacool have AIO kits you can buy
The good thing about those is they are open and can be expanded upon if you want to liquid cool something else later and the quality is much higher

The downside to those is higher costs and that you have to maintain them but they are superior in every other way
Either that or go with a good air cooler as CLC coolers gives you the worst of everything

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
If you like the look of a CLC cooler but dont like them because of the poor quality reliability and performance both EK, Swiftech and Alphacool have AIO kits you can buy
The good thing about those is they are open and can be expanded upon if you want to liquid cool something else later and the quality is much higher

The downside to those is higher costs and that you have to maintain them but they are superior in every other way
Either that or go with a good air cooler as CLC coolers gives you the worst of everything
I just want to make sure that it is indeed the cpu cooler that under performing, before I go buying anything new. CPU package is at around 34-35C right now, with just Firefox, Microsoft edge, and HWinfo64 open. The temps during basic use are nowhere near crazy, it's just under stress testing so far. Gaming it might hit around 70 at times

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MCE is something used by board makers to force your single core turbo to all cores so your single core 4.7ghz gets applied to all cores. Intel doesn't do that by default to stay within their TDP.
To even get the turbo speeds that Intel advertises on the 9900k and 9700k you must exceede the TDP, this is also considered an overclock.

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