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If you want to do this with high quality video encoding then I would suggest buying a capture card that supports hardware encoding if you want to offload to the old PC. You can duplicate the monitor (or use obs preview on the capture device) with very, very little overhead on your gaming pc, and on the core 2 machine, the encoding on OBS and out to your streaming platform will be handled by the capture card.

I do this between my main rig and an old AMD FX machine and stream 1080P 30FPS (all my specific capture card supports, got it for $50 on ebay..), very low load on the CPU, Q9550 should be just fine.

Another alternative would be to buy a used graphics card that supports x264 encoding and stick that in your main rig, set OBS to use that device for hardware encoding. I've never tried this route as I wanted all work to be completely offloaded to another machine.

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I don't think it would be that good since it doesn't have avx support. When you get past 6k bit rate people on mobile connections can have problems with the video buffering.
Yeah exactly. 5k bit feels more comfortable i tested. Q9550 using sse which is not fast as avx 😞 what do you think about first gen avx supported cpu's? Like sandy bridge or fx4300? Can they handle medium or slow cpu preset in obs?(1080p 60fps)

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If you want to do this with high quality video encoding then I would suggest buying a capture card that supports hardware encoding if you want to offload to the old PC. You can duplicate the monitor (or use obs preview on the capture device) with very, very little overhead on your gaming pc, and on the core 2 machine, the encoding on OBS and out to your streaming platform will be handled by the capture card.

I do this between my main rig and an old AMD FX machine and stream 1080P 30FPS (all my specific capture card supports, got it for $50 on ebay..), very low load on the CPU, Q9550 should be just fine.

Another alternative would be to buy a used graphics card that supports x264 encoding and stick that in your main rig, set OBS to use that device for hardware encoding. I've never tried this route as I wanted all work to be completely offloaded to another machine.
Well i heard cheap capture cards doesn't have good encoding chips... You've old fx cpu which is support avx maybe that's why you didn't experianced load issues.
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^^ I have Avermedia C985, got it for $50 USD on ebay, it has built in hardware h264 encoding. It's the cheapest way you're going to get higher quality streaming without upgrading the streaming PC or a GPU to handle the encoding.

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Quote: Originally Posted by obican View Post
Yeah exactly. 5k bit feels more comfortable i tested. Q9550 using sse which is not fast as avx 😞 what do you think about first gen avx supported cpu's? Like sandy bridge or fx4300? Can they handle medium or slow cpu preset in obs?(1080p 60fps)



Well i heard cheap capture cards doesn't have good encoding chips... You've old fx cpu which is support avx maybe that's why you didn't experianced load issues.
I'm not sure exactly what cpu would be required for that. The requirements are much lower for a dedicated chip compared to one you are gaming on while streaming. I personally wouldn't run 1080p 60 fps on twitch unless you have enough viewers to get real time transcoding from twitch. A lot of big streamers will run 900p 60 fps with 8k bit rate max.
Here's a list to give you a rough idea of how good various cpus are for x264 encoding: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1598
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Should work even with 1080/1440p if you set up all things right

EDIT: Recommend to use a 120gb+ decent SSD on the Q9550 system as well (Speedy flashdrive is also nice).


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Should work even with 1080/1440p if you set up all things right [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]

EDIT: Recommend to use a 120gb+ decent SSD on the Q9550 system as well (Speedy flashdrive is also nice).
Unfortunately it's not worked with 60fps 😞 working only ultrafast preset at 6-8k bit which is very bad quality... Even 720p @60fps is only working superfast preset...
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I did tell you that you won't be able to get decent quality with Q9550, didn't I. You either need some external grabber or a dedicated machine with a CPU of at least 2500k class, although I could easily stream a medium cpu bound multiplayer game with 4690k @4.7GHz with 720p60 6500kbps and veryfast preset but the CPU was already starting to get chocked. No hiccups though.

Your best bang for a buck option is getting a cheapest Ryzen build and use an external grabber to send video to it. 2nd option is getting RTX2060, I've heard Nvidia made some decent progress with NVENC and it finally is usable, delivering not-utter-**** image.

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Update: at ultrafast preset and 6500bitrate i've got good results but quality is not good. I wish it to handle veryfast preset which is sweet spot for quality and performance... So 720p and 60fps in veryfast preset working good also and i decided to use it.
Lower your bitrate to 5000.

Apex Legends gives professional streamers with highend gaming and streaming rigs problems. I'd test a more stream friendly games to see what your setup can handle. Outside of that might be better off using gpu encoding.

*The new release of OBS has really good gpu encoding. I think it's the beta branch but my friend runs it and his stream is almost prefect (very clean) running 720p/60 8600k/1070 in tough stream games like Far Cry 5.

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I have no problems streaming Apex with stuff on my list, it's a very light game. 1080p60 6500kbps, veryfast preset.

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Unfortunately it's not worked with 60fps 😞 working only ultrafast preset at 6-8k bit which is very bad quality... Even 720p @60fps is only working superfast preset...
I can confirm that 1080/1440p 60fps did work to stream with Q9550, with decent RAM and SSD a few years ago. Not my setup at the time, however did see it work with components.


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