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Xeons better than 8700k ? [gaming]

Is there any out there?
8700k is rivaled only by a handful of other i7/i9s for gaming due to single core performance, but is there Xeons better than 8700k (old or new) ?

Prices don't matter, but I am fascinated with Xeons for many reasons, I watched countless of Youtube benchmarks, and read up on it a lot.

something BETTER for gaming than 8700k, is there such a thing?
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Xeon E-2186G: 6c12t, 3.8GHz, 4.7GHz turbo.
Compared with the i7-8700K (6c12t, 3.7GHz, 4.7GHz turbo), it is 0.1GHz faster with same max turbo, but 8700K is overclockable.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-4-70-ghz.html



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Quote: Originally Posted by ltpdttcdft View Post
Xeon E-2186G: 6c12t, 3.8GHz, 4.7GHz turbo.
Compared with the i7-8700K (6c12t, 3.7GHz, 4.7GHz turbo), it is 0.1GHz faster with same max turbo, but 8700K is overclockable.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-4-70-ghz.html

0.1ghz, but is it better in single core performance? Or in gaming?
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Tiny bit ahead, according to Passmark Single Thread:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Falls slightly behind in gaming, according to Anandtech:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13526...more-tested/11



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Quote: Originally Posted by ltpdttcdft View Post
Tiny bit ahead, according to Passmark Single Thread:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Falls slightly behind in gaming, according to Anandtech:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13526...more-tested/11
I was looking at it earlier, and I could not find this Xeon, I don't think Intel makes it anymore, and you can't even find it on Amazon. I found 1 for $750 on Ebay, but not much on it.

Okay, how about this question: Which Xeon is better in gaming (overall) if comparing to 8700k?

Is there such a thing?
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I don't think it would be better for gaming because the lack of overclocking support and memory overclock support. You would be limited to workstation/server motherboards.

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You do realize right that the whole CPU>GPU bottle necking thing has been massively blown out of proportion?

ANY modern CPU (last 3 generations) with more than 4 cores, running at 4Ghz or above is capable of serving up data to RTX2080Ti's so fast it makes basically no difference if you have 100Mhz more or not.

This has been proven in numerous tests and reviews. And to be honest more and more titles are benefiting much more from core count than raw IPC.

I'd take an 8 core at 4.5Ghz over a 6 core at 5Ghz any day.

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Nope, top of the line as far as publicly known products go. Even the slightest overclock and the 8700k pulls ahead.



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Quote: Originally Posted by The_Rocker View Post
You do realize right that the whole CPU>GPU bottle necking thing has been massively blown out of proportion?

ANY modern CPU (last 3 generations) with more than 4 cores, running at 4Ghz or above is capable of serving up data to RTX2080Ti's so fast it makes basically no difference if you have 100Mhz more or not.

This has been proven in numerous tests and reviews. And to be honest more and more titles are benefiting much more from core count than raw IPC.

I'd take an 8 core at 4.5Ghz over a 6 core at 5Ghz any day.
Re: bolded, there are 1080p 120/144/240Hz displays and plenty of titles still on DX11 that can use every MHz you give them. In further clarification with your claim, given the cheaper alternatives now available, 8/9th gen i7/9's are not good value matches for 60Hz displays anymore.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The_Rocker View Post
You do realize right that the whole CPU>GPU bottle necking thing has been massively blown out of proportion?

ANY modern CPU (last 3 generations) with more than 4 cores, running at 4Ghz or above is capable of serving up data to RTX2080Ti's so fast it makes basically no difference if you have 100Mhz more or not.

This has been proven in numerous tests and reviews. And to be honest more and more titles are benefiting much more from core count than raw IPC.

I'd take an 8 core at 4.5Ghz over a 6 core at 5Ghz any day.
Only having 4 cores is a bottleneck in a lot of modern games. 4690k to 4790k plus faster ram nearly doubled my minimum FPS in COD:BO4.
As for speed it's simple, if you're CPU bound faster gets you more FPS, if not you might get a bump to your minimums.

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