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post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old 03-25-2019, 09:36 PM
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a 6xxx chip will have stronger compatability with faster ram.


I like tweaking what I have, so I got my 5930k sitting at a reasonable 4.25ghz all core and 4ghz cache.


Paired with 4 sticks of corsair lpx 3ghz cl15, it does very well with quad channel memory in use.


Plenty snappy for my needs.




2133mhz ram in quad channel usually will outperform many dual channel setups with fast ram, if what you are using is memory intensive.


using fast ram in quad channel just makes it that much sweeter!




Overall, I dont think you will gain much. You are already taking advantage of quad channel, so perhaps focus on going further with cache speed and memory tweaks!
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I have my old 15-15-15-35 g.skill ddr4-3000 clocked up to [email protected] 16-16-16-36 at 1.4V on my 5930k.

The 5930k is at 45x100 on all cores at 1.26v, stable, with 0.02v adaptive.
Speed step/c-states/etc are all on, so when idle, it clocks down to 1.2GHz and 0.7 vcore.

It's quite nice, been running this way for over a year now...still occasionally tweaking it for more performance.

I'd be interested in picking up some faster DDR4, but not sure what would be much better in x99.





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I had a 5820K for a while, got it specifically because I wanted to try doing 3200mhz quad channel memory. The TLDR of it is that it's definitely not worth it.

Since you are already running in quad channel, you really don't need to worry about your ram speed. Just running in quad channel already puts you ahead of most of us in terms of your ram at least.

On top of that, it's unlikely that you will be able to get 3200mhz working in quad channel. It took me 3 motherboards and several ram kits which were QVL to get it working on that CPU and even then, it only worked for about 2-3 months until the IMC degraded and couldn't hold 3200mhz in quad anymore. That CPU is just not designed to hit 3200mhz in quad channel mode. Even though it is technically possible, it's REALLY pushing it for that CPU.

I would strongly advise against it.


As I write this I see that the guy posting above this got it working on the same mobo I had for longer. Good for him. IMO, not worth the effort.

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I've noticed the Broadwell-E's seem to be worse than Haswell-E's on core overclocks, but what about memory overclocking and uncore overclocking? Are Broadwell-E's better at this?
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I've noticed the Broadwell-E's seem to be worse than Haswell-E's on core overclocks, but what about memory overclocking and uncore overclocking? Are Broadwell-E's better at this?
BW-E has higher IPC, that's why the core clock is harder to overclock. Memory overclocking is better on average as the IMC is better. Uncore clocking is very difficult because there are no O.C. socket for BW-E. Unless you are doing extensive compression algorithm research or development, you won't see a huge difference beyond 2400MHz DDR4 or stock Uncore at GPU limited scenarios, for high fps you'll have better luck with a faster single core overlock with a suitable processor and fast RAM. HEDT X99 isn't suited for this, not saying it won't help, but you'll get more bang for your buck with the mainstream CPUs and high end DDR4.

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No.
You'd have to spend 400.us for 4x8gb's because there's no samsung b-die in 4gb sticks or 2x8gb and run in dual channel instead of quad channel for half price.
https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

DDR5 will probably be released fairly soon maybe it would be an option for x99
Yup, no 4gb B-die sticks, as far as I can tell. Considering the platform generally can't push more than 3200 or so, maybe just going for a regular Hynix kit would make sense.

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I had a 5820K for a while, got it specifically because I wanted to try doing 3200mhz quad channel memory. The TLDR of it is that it's definitely not worth it.

Since you are already running in quad channel, you really don't need to worry about your ram speed. Just running in quad channel already puts you ahead of most of us in terms of your ram at least.

On top of that, it's unlikely that you will be able to get 3200mhz working in quad channel. It took me 3 motherboards and several ram kits which were QVL to get it working on that CPU and even then, it only worked for about 2-3 months until the IMC degraded and couldn't hold 3200mhz in quad anymore. That CPU is just not designed to hit 3200mhz in quad channel mode. Even though it is technically possible, it's REALLY pushing it for that CPU.

I would strongly advise against it.


As I write this I see that the guy posting above this got it working on the same mobo I had for longer. Good for him. IMO, not worth the effort.
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Not sure what your memory timings were....
But if you noticed his were 16-16-16-36 obviously b-die
I have 3200C14 14-14-14-34 running where as a hynix set I tried 3200C16 16-18-18-38 wouldn't even post on my x99 board

x99 just seems to like b-die is all
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Yup, no 4gb B-die sticks, as far as I can tell. Considering the platform generally can't push more than 3200 or so, maybe just going for a regular Hynix kit would make sense.
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I personally had no luck with hynix or micron memory
Only b-die actually worked and is still working hynix would be a wasted effort.

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Yeah, these are g.skill/sk hynix dimms.

I'm only on year 3 of this setup, needs to last another 2-3 years, then I'll build something faster. =)

I say it needs to "last" which is funny, because my old i7-980 box is still running daily as my HTPC and it's pretty ancient now.
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Indeed I'm hoping to get at least 4 more years out of x99
Had a crappy acer aspire for near 8 years only retired it didn't die hate to think a much more expensive machine would be in use for less than that :/

B-die is good for Intel and amd systems

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