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post #21 of 84 (permalink) Old 06-16-2019, 10:51 AM
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Thanks for the comments - I'll read through these again.

I did find that on the E5-1680-V2 - I could get to 4.3 Ghz for not much more v-core than 4.2 Ghz so I'd say 4.2-4.3 is the place for me - ON AIR !!!! - Really good considering the stock clocks are 3 Ghz

Looking at the gaming benchmarks the E5-1680-V2 did beat the 2700X and wasn't too far behind the 9900K (OK it was a bit behind_but not destroyed by it)_which means it'll be a great CPU and for the price as a used part !!!
Yeah, it's an awesome CPU for anyone who has a spare X79 Motherboard laying around. The best of x79 tbh.

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Hi Mahigan,

Actually, I went looking for some X79 - And found some new ones which I couldn't believe but the prices were a little high.

Asus X79 Deluxe, Asus Rampage IV Extreme and the Black Eidtion R IV E as well were all available.

There were also some very good priced E5_1680_V2 which were from trash_can Mac Pro's 2013 at around £$200 plus a little import duty.

As I've made a real effort to OC properly (within reason) and safely__watching top_end temperatures I decided to go with some older processors / boards to buy a little piece of computing history.

Whilst I'm no seasoned OC'er I have managed to OC a 3930 K, 3770 K, E5_1680_V2 & E5_1680_V2 on a variety of motherboards logging the information and saving it / backing up for future reference - oh and also the Xeon E5_2697_V2 (base clock)

I can see how some boards were easier than others but by playing round in the BIOS there was always a route to an overclock.

Asus X79 P9X79 Pro for example would not manually OC so it was necessary to perform an OC tuner "auto" OC -- then when the machine booted back into the BIOS before Windows I could manually alter the settings as if it was a manual OC to begin with -- then the OC worked but performing a "straight" manual OC did not work (weird).

Asus X79 R IV E Black - would only OC in XMP mode while Asus X79 Deluxe worked "straight" with a manual OC.

I've not got round to the Asus R IV E yet -- too busy on other things --- but I've cut my OC teeth just a little and feel happy with the results ---and feel confident I can now OC without risking the board / CPU.....

As a sounding off note (for now)_the VRM's at the back panel I/O were "roasting hot" - So I've got some "spot" coolers (not used yet)___ Do these make a difference?

>>>>>Oh and thanks for all the tips /feedback etc......from everyone......

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E5 1680 V2

You have one too ! - nice to see
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A little late on the bandwagon but this X79 platform is nuts, had my 3930k for 6 years I think and after all these years I can still use it for gaming and I believe it will last a few for years. Awesome investment considering technology evolves so fast. Just got this 8 core Xenon to have a little more CPU for new GPU. Also it's working wonders for my system performance, runs cooler, less volts, overclocks better and runs high speed ram for breakfast. Got it for 250€ so it was a no brainer considering upgrading motherboard, cpu, ram would set me back a lot more for no "real" improvement in games. Long live X79

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Hello, FWIW - Just to chat____

Technology does progress in some ways (quickly) but not in others__So X79 / E5 Xeon (now cheaper)__is very strong performance__The IVY CPU's support AVX__OK not AVX 2 and may lack thunderbolt but apart from that it is a solid platform.

The E5_1680_V2 beat the 2700 X in some game testing just last year and lots of people like to the AMD 2700 X as it is a good CPU but the Xeon beat it.

The Xeon was behind the 9900 K by 15% or so but so what - The 9900 K has better performance than the 6950 X that everyone was raving about not long ago.

Now I learned a tad more - the 8C/16T 1680 V2 is an early version 5960 X but has 25 MB L3 cache which is more than 5960 X has but 5960 X is Haswell and supports AVX 2 and operates on boards that support thunderbolt which is a step up from X58 / X79 era.
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Hello, FWIW - Just to chat____

Technology does progress in some ways (quickly) but not in others__So X79 / E5 Xeon (now cheaper)__is very strong performance__The IVY CPU's support AVX__OK not AVX 2 and may lack thunderbolt but apart from that it is a solid platform.

The E5_1680_V2 beat the 2700 X in some game testing just last year and lots of people like to the AMD 2700 X as it is a good CPU but the Xeon beat it.

The Xeon was behind the 9900 K by 15% or so but so what - The 9900 K has better performance than the 6950 X that everyone was raving about not long ago.

Now I learned a tad more - the 8C/16T 1680 V2 is an early version 5960 X but has 25 MB L3 cache which is more than 5960 X has but 5960 X is Haswell and supports AVX 2 and operates on boards that support thunderbolt which is a step up from X58 / X79 era.
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1680v2 is a pretty decent processor in 2019, but it's only worth it if you already have an x79 board laying around. It has definitely breathed more life into the X79 platform, enough to still be a contender in 2019 as it performs around overclocked 2700x levels if not better in some scenarios. That quad channel memory and 25mb L3 cache has really helped it out.

We were just lucky, plain and simple. X79 has aged too well due to Intel's petty IPC improvements YoY, lack of AMD competition until just recently, pcie 4.0 being delayed, usb 3.0 still being the go-to standard as 3.1 still gains traction, and quad channel ddr3 offering good amounts of bandwidth and low latencies. So basically, we have the tech industry to blame for this board lasting as long as it has.

I remember back in the day when I was figuring out if I should go with 1156 or 2011, everyone told me that 2011 was overkill, you don't have a need for x and y, and games won't take advantage of HT. Fast forward 7 or so years, and things have changed a lot since then. If I had gotten a 2600K, I would have definitely upgraded to something else by now.

So now, we're entering a repeat of X79 with Threadripper which is basically quadruple everything. 8 cores is 32, maybe 64 with 7nm TR, 40 3.0 lanes is now 64 maybe 128 4.0, quad channel ddr3 is now quad maybe octa channel ddr4, and then you have all of the other little features here and there that add on to that. Difference is this time, I'm really trying to figure out how in the world I'm going to use more than 32 pcie lanes and 8 cores. But if history repeats itself, the industry will grow into these behemoth chipsets over time.

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8 channel memory - I've not seen this - Please explain.

Looking at the prices of X570 motherboards it's just ridiculous!!! - OK PCI-e 4 is here and that's why!!! - And 3900 X is a very good CPU....but the Intel is still very hard to beat.

Ii remember people telling me here that GPU's for big gaming don't use all the bandwidth of the PCI-e connector so if this is true how on earth will the PCI-e 4 bandwidth be used?

Good results still work on PCI-e GEN 2 - so maybe the newer PCI-e 4 is marketing at the moment - Then DDR 5 will be out soon >>>> Good then we can add DDR 4 more cheaply !!!
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