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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 07-15-2019, 12:45 PM - Thread Starter
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Upgrade from 4770K 4.6Ghz to 9600K(NVM) -> 3600X instead, Worth it??

Been trying to milk the last bit of life out of my 4770K, as seen in another thread I have floating around. But upgrading will happen in the end.

Fact is, despite AMD's new great products, I'm looking for single core performance.

Ryzen has no OC headroom, but the 9600K usually gets up to 5Ghz, which gives it a cinebench R15 single core of around 220 vs say the 3600X's around 200, as for my 4770K at 4.6Ghz I also get less than 200.

I found a pretty good deal on the parts I'd need for a 9600K, attached the image. What do you people think? (note: Canadian dollars).
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I have a [email protected] and tbh I am going to box this one up and put it on the shelf to go to Ryzen. OC head room or not it is a big upgrade over the 4770k setup and for cost you really can't beat it. I really wouldn't do the 9600k if it was me and I have one. Regret it very much when i have a Ryzen 2000 system before this.
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I wouldn't go for anything lower than a 3900X or a 9700K from a 4770K.

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If it's for gaming you don't need a R9 3900X , you're likely better off with R5 3600 or R7 3700X.

I wouldn't pay even $250 for a i5-9600K considering how high the performance is on the R5 3600 for $200.

With every security mitigation Intel pushes out and with every Ryzen optimization that comes along the value proposition will get even better over time.


edit: I'm assuming your Canadian, in which that means the Ryzen 5 3600 is 258 CAD.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Moparman View Post
I have a [email protected] and tbh I am going to box this one up and put it on the shelf to go to Ryzen. OC head room or not it is a big upgrade over the 4770k setup and for cost you really can't beat it. I really wouldn't do the 9600k if it was me and I have one. Regret it very much when i have a Ryzen 2000 system before this.
Keep in mind everyone that I'm going for SINGLE CORE performance here! I very rarely do workstation type workloads, I game for the most part but also run emulators (Playing BOTW on CEMU over 60fps) which require the highest single core performance.

This greatly changes the buying parameters. I am well aware that the 3600X has a significantly higher multi core performance, but I don't care about that.

Cinebench R15 single core performances are as follows from my internet searches.

4770K at 4.6Ghz : 188
3600X stock: 202 (Note: no OC headroom)
3700X stock: 205
9600K stock: 204
9600K 5.1Ghz: 221 Hello!

that 30 point gap between my 4770K and the 9600K is what I'm looking at. And as far as I've seen with Ryzen review, people literally cant get them to go above boost clock on all cores.

I should also note that I'm trying not to break the bank... want to keep the after taxt cost under $800 CAD for the Mobo, Ram and CPU.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
I wouldn't go for anything lower than a 3900X or a 9700K from a 4770K.
If I wasn't a university student I'd be all over these... But alas... Limited money is a thing.

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Cinebench is a very ungrateful performance indicator. But yeah, i5 is currently at a very bad pricing spot. It might be superior in single threaded workload but it's overall overpriced.

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Cinebench is a very ungrateful performance indicator. But yeah, i5 is currently at a very bad pricing spot. It might be superior in single threaded workload but it's overall overpriced.
Ok, so maybe people have some suggestions for a better option that will be suited for CEMU emulator performance in the $300-400 CAD range? (AS per my first post the 9600K is $340 CAD right now)

Anyone with CEMU experience out there?

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If you're having issues with CEMU with a 4.6 4770K you have other issues.

75-100 FPS in BOTW on a 4770K.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
If you're having issues with CEMU with a 4.6 4770K you have other issues.

75-100 FPS in BOTW on a 4770K.
Hmmmm ok, what do you think is going on???

Running an RTX 2060, and 2400Mhz 10-12-11-29 Ram

I have 1080 render resolution 4X shadow maps, using FPS++ I only get around 45-55 FPS in villages... Open world runs 75 FPS no problem, but I'm trying to maintain above 60FPS in villages at least.

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