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post #11 of 32 (permalink) Old 09-05-2019, 06:32 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by mouacyk View Post
Wasn't it actually an Asus board that was under-reporting the true voltage, that's why this was brought up in the 9900K owner's thread in the first place?
No Asus boards overvolt.
This was a rumor because people were used to the old SIO sensor which would report a vcore higher at load than idle at higher loadline calibrations.
The maximus XI line will report the same vcore as VR VOUT on Gigabyte boards now.


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post #12 of 32 (permalink) Old 09-05-2019, 06:49 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post
No Asus boards overvolt.
This was a rumor because people were used to the old SIO sensor which would report a vcore higher at load than idle at higher loadline calibrations.
The maximus XI line will report the same vcore as VR VOUT on Gigabyte boards now.


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https://www.overclock.net/forum/27686004-post2664.html
Thanks for the clarification and that sensors are now accurate.

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Quote: Originally Posted by mouacyk View Post
Thanks for the clarification and that sensors are now accurate.
Do you think I should wait for the 9900KS or pick the binned?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Melodist View Post
Do you think I should wait for the 9900KS or pick the binned?
The binned is a great sample, considering it's even driving 32GB at 4GHz. This one might have been one of the very early batches of 9900K like mine that can do 5GHz at < 1.25v. With the 9900KS, you have no idea what Intel is pumping for voltage in order to guarantee it. They even state that the all-core 5GHz is cooling-dependent, which is marketing speak for wiggle room.

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Quote: Originally Posted by mouacyk View Post
The binned is a great sample, considering it's even driving 32GB at 4GHz. This one might have been one of the very early batches of 9900K like mine that can do 5GHz at < 1.25v. With the 9900KS, you have no idea what Intel is pumping for voltage in order to guarantee it. They even state that the all-core 5GHz is cooling-dependent, which is marketing speak for wiggle room.
Yeah, I mean they unlikely improve the architecture and I could still sell the CPU well since it is boxed with 3 years of warranty right?
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That's a great chip already, I would take that instead of waiting for the KS next month if you're in a hurry. This one you have one less variable as the vcore needed is already determined. We don't know if the KS is 5.0 @ 1.25v or 5.0 @ 1.35v provided you have good enough cooling.

Perhaps dig a bit deeper with the seller to determine his ambient temps, water temps, radiator requirements for his clocks. From his HWInfo ss, seems he has at minimum a Heatkiller MO-RA. I would not expect the same voltage and temps if you're running with a regular heatsink or 240 AIO cooler. Just set your expectations and it really is YMMV.

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So where is the 5200/5300 benchmarks?

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1.163v 5GHz on a ASUS XI Apex motherboard is okay depending on the price. The best chips can do 5GHz 1.083-1.10v
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Well, it is 1.160 on the VCore, and 1.1 in reality (vram vout) or not? So I guess it is amongst the best then.

Is there a thread or collection of people posting their 9900k top volters?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Melodist View Post
Well, it is 1.160 on the VCore, and 1.1 in reality (vram vout) or not? So I guess it is amongst the best then.

Is there a thread or collection of people posting their 9900k top volters?
TurboV Core says CPU Core Voltage 1.230v so I assume he's using LLC5 to get 1.163v underload.
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