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post #351 of 571 (permalink) Old 01-13-2020, 09:34 PM
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Fact is, at 4.8 blender, R20, IBT, x265 all pass at 1.2V
Wow, that's really good. My 9960 has a few cores that require 1.295 V for 4.8 GHz to pass 1hr RealBench stress test. Other cores require 1.255 V for 4.8 GHz

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That much that cpu drops? None of mine act like that.. 1.200mV -0.025mV will do 1.175mV. Or aroundish depending the multiplier. Mine needs 1.271 mV for 49x no avx divider i use that on 10cores trying to keep temps aroundish and tdp under 400w
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
been there, done that. it would need 150-200mV neg offset. at 4.7 the VID is 1.385V, the chip only needs 1.175V. 4.8GHz is worse...
Fact is, at 4.8 blender, R20, IBT, x265 all pass at 1.2V also - blender shown. I run 4.7 at 1.2V (mostly) only for Boinc which, probably for coding reasons, fouls after 6-10 hours mixing it up as in the pic below.


That's crazy good. The one I played with really "wanted" 2 PSUs. I use the "add2PSU" gadget and it was easy. Alas, it was not my board or cpu...
Hi,
Looks good I suppose can tell what you're using for avx offsets with you using adaptive voltage but core temp spread sure looks nice
Looks like the vrm's are getting up to near 60c maybe optimus will drop a vrm water block soon

For the record I use the the full test not the short test
Short test is just to see if I die or not testing settings since it's well short
If i don't die I use the full test
I don't usually post the short test results but it does BMW and classroom and well I used to just loop classroom before the blender benchmark open data came out

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Hi,
Looks good I suppose can tell what you're using for avx offsets with you using adaptive voltage but core temp spread sure looks nice
Looks like the vrm's are getting up to near 60c maybe optimus will drop a vrm water block soon

For the record I use the the full test not the short test
Short test is just to see if I die or not testing settings since it's well short
If i don't die I use the full test
I don't usually post the short test results but it does BMW and classroom and well I used to just loop classroom before the blender benchmark open data came out
I know. You've made that very clear!

blender long (or short) are fine as a component in establishing stability. What trips up these processors is not so much one single instruction set, but mixing it up. I really think this is why some things (like Boinc cpu tasks) are worth using since, besides some bad code (like games), all sorts of crap is shuttled around the the architecture trying to cause a logic fail.

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I know. You've made that very clear!

blender long (or short) are fine as a component in establishing stability. What trips up these processors is not so much one single instruction set, but mixing it up. I really think this is why some things (like Boinc cpu tasks) are worth using since, besides some bad code (like games), all sorts of crap is shuttled around the the architecture trying to cause a logic fail.
Hi,
Either way I'm lowering my avx offset now at 4.8 stilll and avx 1 so running long test at 4.7 same 1.24v
Did find and disable vin tracing and lowered vccin to 1.8v with llc5
Almost on the last render file all cores but 1 between 80-88c lowest at 78c
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According to this article: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13452...board-unveiled

it has two 24-pin ATX power connectors and 'four 8-pin and two 6-pin 12 V ATX CPU power inputs'. How are you going to satisfy all those power connectors w/one PSU?
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The connectors are labelled as PSU1 or A, and PSU2 or B.

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JPM or someone maybe you guys got an idea -

I've got a 10980XE sitting at 5GHz 1.35V.

I toss p95 SSE blend on it for 24 hours and it sits under 85C entire time.

I power off/on, put on p95 again and it overheats within an hour.

I mess with my cooler a bit and fans, it sits okay at 85 again, but then if I reboot a few times every time I'm overheating until I randomly am not again.

Have you seen any weird behavior with memory related voltages or just power delivery to the CPU with Cascadelake-X? I thought something was wrong with my pump/cooler but I'm thinking maybe I need to do a deep dive on if anything is varying a lot... one thing that concerns me is that system agent voltage can Only use an Offset value and I was thinking maybe that voltage is going crazy on reboots and changing it up a lot.

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I'll take a wild guess and say P95 should not be used.

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Either way I'm lowering my avx offset now at 4.8 stilll and avx 1 so running long test at 4.7 same 1.24v
Did find and disable vin tracing and lowered vccin to 1.8v with llc5
Almost on the last render file all cores but 1 between 80-88c lowest at 78c
What is your ambient room temperature and water temps? I can't even get the blender test to pass since I'm hitting thermal limits at 100c. 4.7ghz at 1.176.

My room temperature 23c with water temperature hitting a max of 35.6c.

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So, the folks at Optimus were kind enough to send me, unsolicited, a demo Signature V2 to try out, and for comparison to the Foundation block I purchased a week ago (it's a demo unit, not a new block/plate). It arrived today and whoa... this is one finely machined chunk of metal. I mean, it weighs... seriously. Gives new feel to the term: water block! I used the copper cold plate vs the Nickel cold plate. Changing plates is quick and easy. No jet plate & insert to putz with (uh hem, EK).

Anyway, I got it mounted with this 10980XE/Omega/64gb rig and viola! Temp spread between cores is well within my normal "inter-mount" spread and is low (< 10C vs 12+C with the foundation mounts). I know Trash really likes blender but I'm finding that HWBOT x265 4K run with 12x overkill (uses close to 30GB of ram) really hammers the CPU (and ram, and cache). So I did my "comparo" with x265 and have blender results too. Overall the temp spread is significantly smaller with the V2 and the peak temps are slightly lower too (2-ish degrees).

The demo kit came with mounting studs that are a bit different than the Foundation kit and appear to be steel vs aluminium... with springs, which the Foundation does not. Mounting on the Omega x299 was not gonna work with the springs as I could not get all four of the thumb nuts to bite (3 - yes, 4 no) and went with a solid mount (Rigid mount for any of you V-twin guys out there ). Simply tightened down finger tight then backed off 1/8 turn. Easy, and works great!
Rig pics below along with SS of x265 4K comparing the Foundation and V2 running the same exact clocks and voltage: 4.7GHz all core @ 1.185V manual override... and that's another story. Multipliers above 44 just will not work with adaptive on this CPU sample since the VID is well above the actual needed vcore. I had this rig at 1.2V for 4.7 but have found that 1.175V is fine. VCCIN is 1.7V which droops to 1.584V under x265, 1.596V under Blender.
What is your cooling set up and ambient? I don't know if I'm having mounting issues or my cpu is bad. But everyone seems to be having much better temperatures than I am. I'll update with a SS when I have a chance to.

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What is your ambient room temperature and water temps? I can't even get the blender test to pass since I'm hitting thermal limits at 100c. 4.7ghz at 1.176.

My room temperature 23c with water temperature hitting a max of 35.6c.
Hi,
Room Ambient is 78-79f degrees
Water is 33c as we speak rerunning with vccin at 1.93 as I always was on the you replied too was at 1.8v. still with avx 1 and 4.7 with 4.8 all core.
Foundation is doing good

If you are using a Heatkiller 4 pro or ek evo make sure your water jet is horizontal they both work best that way
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