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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-04-2020, 12:03 PM - Thread Starter
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Suggest cheap CPU mobo ram combo for casual gaming !

Hello, my old 775 mobo just failed, and I was thinking instead of getting a new setup, maybe I should probably consider seconds market and look for a used Xeon and pair it with corresponding board and play a few games too, if I can. I have my eyes on x5650 and x5675, but getting a deal on 1366 board seems difficult.

So what are my options here ? Ideally I would want to get x5675, few ecc ram sticks and fix it on a Chinese 1366 board, ? But Is there any that supports over clocking ?

Or should I just look for another CPU.

My limitations and needs are :

1) I want to play at 720p, not higher. I have a 6 years old mid range video card and I don't want to buy a new one.

2) I want to use my old PSU (400w corsair), if I can.

3) I need 60 fps at high - very high settings in current games.

4) I want stable over clock at 4 GHz or more.



Plz suggests a cheap CPU mobo ram combo for my requirements. Thanks.
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Hello, my old 775 mobo just failed, and I was thinking instead of getting a new setup, maybe I should probably consider seconds market and look for a used Xeon and pair it with corresponding board and play a few games too, if I can. I have my eyes on x5650 and x5675, but getting a deal on 1366 board seems difficult.

So what are my options here ? Ideally I would want to get x5675, few ecc ram sticks and fix it on a Chinese 1366 board, ? But Is there any that supports over clocking ?

Or should I just look for another CPU.

My limitations and needs are :

1) I want to play at 720p, not higher. I have a 6 years old mid range video card and I don't want to buy a new one.

2) I want to use my old PSU (400w corsair), if I can.

3) I need 60 fps at high - very high settings in current games.

4) I want stable over clock at 4 GHz or more.



Plz suggests a cheap CPU mobo ram combo for my requirements. Thanks.
You're really expecting a lot here. Asking for your cake and eat it too. You're not going to get 60+FPS on a 6 year old mid range video card and an ancient CPU. Mesh bus Xeon CPU's are not the best for gaming. You can expect FPS lows in the 40's when you combine that with an obsolete video card. If that card isn't better than an Nvidia GTX 780, it's going to do poorly. Is it at least equal in power to an AMD HD 7970 ?

And hanging on to very old power supplies for primary systems isn't really a good thing unless it's a very high quality make. What model and make is that PSU? Corsair used several OEM's.

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Cost for 1366 Xeon + Board is about equal to brand new B450 board and Ryzen CPU so I'd go the new route. Even at 4.6GHz 1366 six core CPUs get left behind, they were nice deals and option until a few years ago but not so much now unless you have extra money and just want to play with an old platform.

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Thanks, my PSU is corsair 430, I guess its old, low output but high quality and used very little, and since i dont plan to add a lot of stuff ( just cpu cooler, mobo and ssd ) i thought it would pull them just ok. Video card however is HD 7750. Will it help if I game on 720p only and try squeezin somewhere around 50ish fps with mid- high settings ?

If yes then a cheap used Xeon makes sense, else I have to build a new system from scratch !

I have seen videos of people doing great things with those over clocked xeons and showed that they could perform at par with ryzens and i7s, and that got me real excited and thinking !
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Hi, I thought when it comes to gaming, the single core GHz matters the most, instead of cores. Plz suggest some suitable CPUs for that board and I see what I can do.
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you want a cheap rig that works fine at 720p?


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6TYNyk


Not a fan of the motherboard, but it is simply an example.




This is a very reasonable CPU with onboard graphics.


3600mhz is the peak speed for at least drop in and easy to manage speeds, just enable the XMP profile for memory.




This setup performs very well at 1080p gaming standards, and will quite easily smash anything at 720p


Look at the price as well, which includes a basic small NVME ssd drive for booting up fast.


One VERY LARGE downside to this rig.. There IS a potential for this not working out of the box, due to BIOS limitations.


the 3400G is a newer processor based on 2nd gen ryzen architecture. This means you will most likely need a friend that has a 1st or 2nd gen ryzen chip to drop in and use to upgrade the BIOS prior to using the 3400G.




One way to side step this is to buy a motherboard that has onboard ROM setup that allows a CPU-less BIOS update process. Researching a few motherboards will let you find this information.




This APU setup will run quite easily on even a 200wqatt power supply, so re-using your 400+watt supply will save you some money!


EDIT - going this route enables you to sell your current video card, as the onboard graphics will likely perform very similarily, and in some cases better, due to utilizing the 3600mhz ram.
That high ram speed aslo doubles as increased cpu performance due to ryzen cpu architecture standards

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Westmere Xeons are indeed affordable and make for very capable gaming CPUs, but you're going to have a hard time finding an affordable X58 motherboard.

Single-core prowess does matter, especially at 720p, but Ryzen is very close to Intel in terms of IPC, especially newer Zen CPUs. The best bang for your buck is currently the "new" R5 1600 AF at $85. It's basically an R5 2600 for quite a bit cheaper. You can grab a B450 motherboard for $100 or less. Pretty much anything will be fine for a 6C/12T Ryzen processor. The RAM Gunderman456 suggested is fine. If you want to save a little money, you can grab a 3200 kit for a bit less. Either will give more than acceptable gaming performance. If you need to save more, a 2x4GB kit would be fine. If the budget allows, you can pickup an RX 570 for $130 and you're up to date for well under $500.

One of the Ryzen APUs is another option if you simply don't have the budget for a newer graphics card. The Vega 11 integrated graphics on the R5 3400G is superior to the HD 7750, but not quite as good as a modern discrete graphics card.

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