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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-12-2020, 11:58 PM
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PSU aside,

I'm fairly sure the latest version of Optix now supports RT core acceleration, so you obviously have a lot to gain by getting a new GPU. EVGA has that new RTX 2060 KO for around $300, that's a very large upgrade. $400 will get you a second hand or b stock 2070 right now as well. You have a TON to gain here. Only concern is potential remorse when Ampere finally arrives, but that's pretty subjective..

There's really no headroom left in a 4.4ghz 4690k at this point that's going to make much change to a bottleneck, assuming you fall into the average MAX OC of 4.5-4.7ghz. Using nvidia encoder on a 2060 or 2070 (or better) via OBS on the new GPU will obviously help out.

In other words, get the GPU first and see how that goes. If you need more CPU, sell the z97 setup and buy whatever ryzen setup fits your budget.

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PSU aside,

I'm fairly sure the latest version of Optix now supports RT core acceleration, so you obviously have a lot to gain by getting a new GPU. EVGA has that new RTX 2060 KO for around $300, that's a very large upgrade. $400 will get you a second hand or b stock 2070 right now as well. You have a TON to gain here. Only concern is potential remorse when Ampere finally arrives, but that's pretty subjective..

There's really no headroom left in a 4.4ghz 4690k at this point that's going to make much change to a bottleneck, assuming you fall into the average MAX OC of 4.5-4.7ghz. Using nvidia encoder on a 2060 or 2070 (or better) via OBS on the new GPU will obviously help out.

In other words, get the GPU first and see how that goes. If you need more CPU, sell the z97 setup and buy whatever ryzen setup fits your budget.
Ah, so its not worth risking going any higher, as what your implying is that the bottleneck will already be reduced as much as it can be with my clock speeds.

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Yeah we're talking a few % here.. I think realistically the most you'll get out of pushing that CPU is another 4-5% beyond 4.4ghz. Performance is performance, but I don't think that's going to solve your problem.

As far as I'm understanding, you're writing real time raytracing demos/projects using Optix.. so buying an RTX card is the solution for that problem.

970 is also showing it's age now just for gaming alone, so I expect a new GPU and using NVENC (GPU encoder) will help tremendously in games, since the 4690K is still capable of at least 60FPS in most any game I can think of.

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Ah, so its not worth risking going any higher, as what your implying is that the bottleneck will already be reduced as much as it can be with my clock speeds.
You're not risking anything.

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You can easily get a used 4770K for about $150 and with 8 threads you wouldn't really need to worry about a bottleneck at least until next gen. After that get whatever GPU you want. Considering next gen is around the corner, I wouldn't recommend spending a lot on a GPU right now.

Considering there is no upgrade path past a 4 core 8 thread i7 and you still have DDR3 ram on that gen, I would get the i7 just to have the PC be as fast as it ever will be, because when you eventually upgrade for next gen you will have to get a new CPU, ram, and mobo anyway so you might as well max out this PC and use it as a spare later on.

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You can easily get a used 4770K for about $150 and with 8 threads you wouldn't really need to worry about a bottleneck at least until next gen. After that get whatever GPU you want. Considering next gen is around the corner, I wouldn't recommend spending a lot on a GPU right now.
5775c is faster than 7700k and it already bottlenecks 2070 Super, anything higher gets bottlenecked even in 1440p, and 2080 Ti is bottlenecked even in 4k. Not by a great amount but GPU usage constantly drops below 97% in 6 games I've tested. Most likely because of weak RAM throughput, which I already have maxed.

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You can easily get a used 4770K for about $150 and with 8 threads you wouldn't really need to worry about a bottleneck at least until next gen. After that get whatever GPU you want. Considering next gen is around the corner, I wouldn't recommend spending a lot on a GPU right now.

Considering there is no upgrade path past a 4 core 8 thread i7 and you still have DDR3 ram on that gen, I would get the i7 just to have the PC be as fast as it ever will be, because when you eventually upgrade for next gen you will have to get a new CPU, ram, and mobo anyway so you might as well max out this PC and use it as a spare later on.
Dont have an option on the rtx stuff. The question is in the most simplistic sense, "Will pushing the clock speeds up even further make a difference with an rtx and my current cpu, or is there no point in stressing the chip?"

Obviously, I could give away my cpu to someone who has a worse one, which still happens today. But it seems that I wont even need to worry about that because OC'ing this cpu is super safe, as I have just been informed.

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You're not risking anything.
Thats what I like to hear... Hehe

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Yeah we're talking a few % here.. I think realistically the most you'll get out of pushing that CPU is another 4-5% beyond 4.4ghz. Performance is performance, but I don't think that's going to solve your problem.

As far as I'm understanding, you're writing real time raytracing demos/projects using Optix.. so buying an RTX card is the solution for that problem.

970 is also showing it's age now just for gaming alone, so I expect a new GPU and using NVENC (GPU encoder) will help tremendously in games, since the 4690K is still capable of at least 60FPS in most any game I can think of.
Indeed, so it looks like my plan is solid. After getting an RTX, I might attempt to push up my cpu, but I will stop if my linear approximation suggests poor fps increase per ghz increase.

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5775c is faster than 7700k and it already bottlenecks 2070 Super, anything higher gets bottlenecked even in 1440p, and 2080 Ti is bottlenecked even in 4k. Not by a great amount but GPU usage constantly drops below 97% in 6 games I've tested. Most likely because of weak RAM throughput, which I already have maxed.
Can you get faster DDR3 RAM for your 5775c? Didn't they have 3000Mhz flavors of DDR3?
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