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post #21 of 30 (permalink) Old 02-14-2020, 03:03 PM
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OCing is why you should pay more. No OC = lower IPC.

I'll send you what I have for the cost of shipping.

2 mobos per box, you better has a cheap CPU you don't mind losing though.

Last guy 1 of the mobos was OK. It was a p8p67 Pro.
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Overclocking doesn't effect the IPC, that's purely architectural

But absolutely agree, OC'ing is why you pay more and IMO absolutely worth it.

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Overclocking doesn't effect the IPC, that's purely architectural

But absolutely agree, OC'ing is why you pay more and IMO absolutely worth it.
Are you saying higher clocks don't make more IPC in a timeframe?

We're about to argue.

Higher clocks=better FPS.
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Are you saying higher clocks don't make more IPC in a timeframe?

We're about to argue.

Higher clocks=better FPS.
You're increasing the clock speed, not the number of instructions per cycle

So yes, you're getting more instructions in a shorter time-frame, absolutely, but you're not getting more instructions per cycle, you're just pushing more cycles

And yes, higher clocks can equate to more frames per second (assuming you're CPU limited)

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Are you saying higher clocks don't make more IPC in a timeframe?

We're about to argue.

Higher clocks=better FPS.
IPC = Instructions Per Cycle. It doesn't matter if it's 1.5Ghz or 5.5Ghz, IPC is a function of the architecture and does not change. With that said, the FPS (Frames Per Second) will definitely improve with faster clock speeds.




Edit: OP, your PSU will be fine for a Ryzen build. I'd shop around for a first gen Ryzen, a B350 mobo, and a cheap DDR4 kit and call it good.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo View Post
Edit: OP, your PSU will be fine for a Ryzen build. I'd shop around for a first gen Ryzen, a B350 mobo, and a cheap DDR4 kit and call it good.
Problem is which cpu, and mobo? whats a decent RAM kit?

ok, so my brand new, sealed in the box, but 5+ year old Be Quiet L8 700w PSU is ok for a 2020 build, got it!

CPU: 3 choices, ALL Ryzen's, 3600($175), 2600x($135), and finally Ryzen 5 1600F ($85)
- being told in terms of gaming 3600 = 2600x, but for running VM',s the 2600x is the better buy, but 1600F isn't on any cpu compare sites so not sure where one falls?

MOBO: 3 choices, MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ($105), ASRock B450M Steel Legend ($85), Asus ROG Strix B450-F ($123)
- There are so many choices, and I keep hearing about the B45 Tomahawk is the way to go, any input on how to decide?

Case - The NZXT H510 is the case I didn't know I wanted..aka it has a usb 3.0 and a USB-C connector on the front.. HOWEVER do any of my motherboards allow for this to work?

RAM - jus checked my home inventory, I do have some Crucial DDR4 2400 UDIMM's, that good or what RAM do yall recommend?


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Amazon has some nice budget gaming bundles right now. I picked up a 2600, B450I Aorus Pro Wifi, and a Corsair 16GB 3200Mhz kit for my wife for ~$300 this last weekend. I already got her a 1660 Super a week or 2 ago, so now all she needs is an m.2 drive and a newer power supply, and she'll have a completely new build for ~$650.

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Amazon has some nice budget gaming bundles right now. I picked up a 2600, B450I Aorus Pro Wifi, and a Corsair 16GB 3200Mhz kit for my wife for ~$300 this last weekend. I already got her a 1660 Super a week or 2 ago, so now all she needs is an m.2 drive and a newer power supply, and she'll have a completely new build for ~$650.
2 questions,

1 - I am not seeing any of PC mobo/cpu combos or bundles?

2 - There are like a dozen+ b450 mobo's, how does one narrow down which one to get?
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Most people do it by figuring out what they want/need out of a board and then buying based on that...

All b450 boards will be just fine for stock basic use with most chips.

If you want a higher end chip or want to heavily overclock, you'll want a higher end board.

As far as USB C, if you're going ATX, I honestly wouldn't even worry about if it's on the motherboard or not and just get an add-on card if you feel you really need it.

As far as memory goes, you'll want to go with 3200Mhz+ (lowest latency you can get ideally), 3600Mhz CL16 is kind of the sweet spot though if you don't feel like trying to OC your ram

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2 questions,

1 - I am not seeing any of PC mobo/cpu combos or bundles?

2 - There are like a dozen+ b450 mobo's, how does one narrow down which one to get?
Yeah, I was wrong. It isn't a bundle. It's just "frequently bought together".

B450I Aorus Pro - decent board if you want an ITX build. The main complaints are lack of aux fan headers and the fact that the VRMs run hot if you use an AIO or water cooling setup. The stock AMD cooler will move enough air over the VRMs to keep them cool at stock or PBO, but you will want more VRMs and better cooling for high core count and/or high overclocks.

Ryzen 5 2600 - This isn't a hardcore gamer build, and a 2600 is plenty for what she does. It's also a really good bang-for-the-buck choice if you're on a budget.


Corsair Vengeance 3200Mhz C16 8x2
- It's not flashy or crazy fast, but it's a good match for the rest of the system. If you are going with a 3rd gen or are planning to push the system, it wouldn't be a bad idea to move up to 3600Mhz C15 or 16. High end B die or E die will give slightly higher performance, but I'm assuming you don't want to spend more $ on RAM than your mobo and CPU combined

I also picked up a Zotac 1660 Super Amp, which is currently out of stock at the vendor I purchased from. You can still buy it through amazon, but at a higher price and non-prime currently.



As far as choosing a mobo - pick a $ amount you are comfortable with spending, decide which features you need, then the features you want, then find the board that ticks the most boxes for you. Once you see something interesting, look for reviews. In the sample build above, I know that my wife isn't a power gamer. She does some number crunching/editing but this isn't her primary workstation. She mainly streams netflix/prime/sirius, with occasional rounds of older games on this PC. 1920x1080 res at 60 FPS is enough for her. She wanted built-in wifi and bluetooth. She doesn't care about sound quality as long as it's decent. She will only need 2-3 SATA ports. She also doesn't like to upgrade her system, so I bought components that fit her needs and will continue to do so for at least 3-5 years.

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