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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 02-07-2020, 12:06 PM - Thread Starter
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Quote: Originally Posted by eminded1 View Post
turn up the LLC to LVL6 if your cooler can handle it.. back when I had same MOBO I used 1.375 adaptive OC Voltage, LLC6 and it was 4.9GHz AVX Stable (AVX OFFSET 2) with 5.1GHZ NON AVX Stable. maybe set AVX OFFSET to 1 , in prime 95 you can switch between AVX load and NON AVX Load when running smallFFT
Isn't 1.375v quite high? Or maybe it's fine for 5.1GHz ?

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An update !

Since wednesday, when i downclocked to 4.9GHz, I didnt experience any BSoD's, and did the same load as when I got the BSoD's, so no difference there.

Today I decided to try go back to 5.0GHz, and got BSoD 8 hours into a session.

So I guess I can safely assume 5.0GHz is no longer stable (for whatever reason), right?

Also, if it was ram or software related, I would assume that I would get BSoDs during the 4.9 GHz 2 days session yea?

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Not necessarily, but probably.

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Quote: Originally Posted by MiHi76 View Post
No, try HCI Memtest(https://hcidesign.com/memtest/) or GSAT(You can run it inside the Linux Subsystem for Windows https://github.com/stressapptest/stressapptest)
Can I use HCI Memtest through windows, or is it done in "dos-style" ? xD.

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Can I use HCI Memtest through windows, or is it done in "dos-style" ? xD.
It run's under Windows. Start for each thread you' ve one instance of it.
Example: On a 9900k you have 8 Cores + HT = 16 instances : 9700k 8Cores + no HT = 8 instances.
Normally it's done by an batch file.

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I think it's pretty clear cut you core degraded. You did good testing to isolate it.

If anything, I'd now work down my voltages at 4.9 as it seems the voltage is what did it in the first place. Your you chip could be an anomaly or we'll see more 9xxx series degrading as those voltages are pretty normal that people have been running.
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There's no way 1.33v under load degraded his chip unless he decided to run insane current through it for hours on end, like P95 24/7 with the chip screaming at 95c. It was always an unstable OC, it just decided to rear it's head now.

I had this issue on a Maximus XI Hero w/ my 9900K that started crashing out of no where on settings that worked for over 3 months. It was realbench 12hr stable, CB20/15 20passes stable, etc. This was on only 1.19v under load @ 5Ghz/4.7Ghz cache. Sometimes it happens. I had a Mem OC that was 750% HCI Memtest stable that ended up corrupting an entire windows after a few weeks. No way of knowing because every single app ran perfectly. I'm not sure if this is really a thing, but I'm starting to believe that when the hardware is new, it's less sensitive. Once things settle in, suddenly it's not enough. I would love to hear from someone like Buildzoid on whether this is a thing.

Right now, I'm running 1.255v under load for 5Ghz/4.7Ghz cache, which is much more realistic. 1.19v @ 5Ghz was unbelievable and golden chip levels of voltage, but for 3 months it was perfectly stable with, as I said, 12hr realbench and CB20/15 20 consecutive passes each, along with hours upon hours of gaming across various engines.

I'd suggest clearing CMOS, inputting the 4.9 settings, and let it run for a week. If no crashing, start trying to tweak 5Ghz again. Find what the new settings are - I wouldn't be surprised if it's a small voltage bump.

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UPDATE:

First of all, thanks for all the inputs.

After my system crashed on 4.9, I did some more research, and figured the problem wasn't even an unstable OC issue - it was a software/driver issue.

The problem was HID-complient headset making error's, and causing the system to crash once a day.

Every time I had a BSoD, my eventlog also logged a critical warning caused by HID-compliant headset.
When i checked in device manager, HID-compliant headset was marked with a yellow exclamationmark.

It turned out, that there is a massive problem with HyperX & HID-compliant headset, multiple threads about it (reddit).
HyperX says its an issue that needs to be adressed by a Windows update.

However, I have seemed to fix my suddenly BSoD's, by simply deactivate HID-compliant headset and activating it again.
I am back to running 5.0GHz and I haven't had a crash since, nor any critical warnings in my eventlog.

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