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Are you trolling?
The PSU in the op is not all that good its a CWT made Chieftec branded unit with crap ripple suppression and only comes with a 2 year warranty
Pointing a bad component in a PC out is not trolling

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The PSU in the op is not all that good its a CWT made Chieftec branded unit with crap ripple suppression and only comes with a 2 year warranty
Pointing a bad component in a PC out is not trolling
Apart from the fact that PSU is not that bad, there are actually several reviews stating that it's actually pretty good, the guy needs help with a slight overclock, and not some opinion on his components, and even if it was that crappy as you say, that psu wouldn't keep him from reaching what he wants.
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Quote: Originally Posted by oxidized View Post
Apart from the fact that PSU is not that bad, there are actually several reviews stating that it's actually pretty good, the guy needs help with a slight overclock, and not some opinion on his components, and even if it was that crappy as you say, that psu wouldn't keep him from reaching what he wants.
Please share those reviews as i was unable to find more than one german review and no Amazon reviews dont count as reviews as none of them have load tested it
The load testing showed that the 5v ripple suppression was all over the place and that the 12v and 3,3v rail where not super great

And yes a PSU with bad ripple suppression will hold the rest of the system back this has been proven time and time again
Edit: he asked for advice on overclocking and i told him the truth that the PSU might be holding the rest of the system back what do you want me to do lie or what

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Use a bit of LLC
х44 (+0.040) (LLC Auto) – prime95 stopped working error
х44 (+0.050) (LLC Auto) – prime95 stopped working error
х44 (+0.060) (LLC Auto) – prime95 crash BSoD
х44 (+0.065) (LLC Auto) – prime95 stopped working error
х44 (+0.070) (LLC Auto) – prime95 stopped working error
*(+0.060 \ 0.065 \ 0.070 = 1.336v prime95)

LLC Enable - does not work, voltage does not display correctly (1.328 program monitoring = 1.357 real) i can't use it..

x43 (+0.040) (LLC Disable) - 29 min (best result) stopped working error


I can’t replace PSU, but I can remove the video card for testing cpu overclock, this help?

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Please share those reviews as i was unable to find more than one german review and no Amazon reviews dont count as reviews as none of them have load tested it
The load testing showed that the 5v ripple suppression was all over the place and that the 12v and 3,3v rail where not super great

And yes a PSU with bad ripple suppression will hold the rest of the system back this has been proven time and time again
Edit: he asked for advice on overclocking and i told him the truth that the PSU might be holding the rest of the system back what do you want me to do lie or what
Even a crappy PSU wouldn't hold him back from overclocking that little, "holding back the entire system"...That totally made my day

https://ru.gecid.com/power/chieftec_gpm-750c/?s=1


In this review it says it has 5-year warranty, not sure about 2-year you're talking about.
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So its a CWT PUQ-G which is old and meh

Edit: took a closer look at the ripple suppression (from your review) which is between 50 and 100mv on the 12v rail so it is indeed not very good

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So its a CWT PUQ-G which is old and meh
Edit; took a second look at the ripple suppression which is between 50 and 100mv so it is indeed not very good
Still this won't cause any problems to his system or to his overclocking attempt.
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The ripple suppression is piss poor if its doing as much as 100mv and that will have an effect on overclocking
If you claim this is a great PSU you have no clue what you are talking about and dont how understand how power delivery works

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The ripple suppression is piss poor if its doing as much as 100mv and that will have an effect on overclocking

If you claim this is a great PSU you have no clue what you are talking about

What? I'm not claming that is a great PSU, i'm claiming that it's a normal PSU, and that amount ripple won't keep him from overclocking, nor will "hold back his system".
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100mv of ripple is normal and wont have an effect on overclocking? that is simply untrue
The best units around today are doing 5mv on all the rails and you are hard pressed to find anything doing worse than 50mv today so 100mv is just plain horrible

You really should read this but i will quote if you cant be bothered to read it all
https://www.overclock.net/forum/31-p...rclocking.html

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Ripple is measured as a peak-to-peak value in milivolts, and is measured using an oscilloscope (software can not detect ripple, nor can a multimeter or voltmeter; you need an oscilloscope with a scanning frequency of at least 30MHz). The ATX specification sets these limits on computer PSU ripple levels:

+12V - 120mV
+5V - 50mV
+3.3V - 50mV
+5VSB - 120mV
-12 - 120mV

My personal preference is to see numbers in or under this range:

+12V - 80mV
+5V - 30mV
+3.3V - 30mV
+5VSB - 50mV
-12V - 80mV

Any power supply which has ripple outside of those proscribed by the ATX specifications can and will cause short term hardware damage (over a period of days to months, depending). Anything outside of my preferences may cause long-term reliability degradation and other issues, though it won't damage your hardware in the short term.

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The PSU in the OP is rubbish thats simply stating a fact

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