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post #11 of 40 (permalink) Old 04-16-2020, 08:53 AM
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Not really games like cache speed more
Default/ auto haswell-e cache is like 32 and with offset 0.175 can do 38 pretty easily with cache voltage maxing out at 1.147v

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post #12 of 40 (permalink) Old 04-16-2020, 09:08 AM - Thread Starter
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Hi,
Not really games like cache speed more
Default/ auto haswell-e cache is like 32 and with offset 0.175 can do 38 pretty easily with cache voltage maxing out at 1.147v
Haswell-E was a lot more kind to me
can't remember what kind of cache voltage I was throwing in (it isn't like I was pushing my chip a lot either... heh)
didn't had much luck with DDR4 and the old kit never gets past 3000
back then DDR4s were very pricey
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Hi,
Yep just 4x4gb kit of corsair dominator 2666c16 was 300.us back then and it would barely do 2800mhz
2666c15 was total junk wouldn't even do rated speed.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Not really games like cache speed more
Default/ auto haswell-e cache is like 32 and with offset 0.175 can do 38 pretty easily with cache voltage maxing out at 1.147v
Memory speed/latency do inpact gamingperformance in cpubound games with high end gpu's. Read 2080/2080ti. That is why a 5960x/6900k/6950x is faster than Ryzen 3000 series in games like Battlefield V, when the memory is tweaked These cpu's has pretty low memorylatency when the memory is tweaked, and is still very good! Stock it sucks, same as 7980xe Overclocked with tweaked memory, it's a different story.

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Memory speed/latency do inpact gamingperformance in cpubound games with high end gpu's. Read 2080/2080ti. That is why a 5960x/6900k/6950x is faster than Ryzen 3000 series in games like Battlefield V, when the memory is tweaked These cpu's has pretty low memorylatency when the memory is tweaked, and is still very good! Stock it sucks, same as 7980xe Overclocked with tweaked memory, it's a different story.
Hi,
Bad example though 79/ 99 and I image 10...x series all suck at gaming mainly because of piss poor cache/ mesh default max 27 is just lame
Okay at max 30 but still pails in comparison to even haswell-e which as I said easy 38 max cache rocks and 87..k/99..k series rule the gaming day.

Memory yeah sure but you get a lot more out of cache oc lower memory latency too saw that with ddr4 memory test on rog forum.

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Maxxmem

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...DR4-Ram-Scores

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so just a small update....

haven't had much time to tinker with settings at weekends but the system now manages to give me one sweet freeze while running at last known stable xmp-only settings...yay

I'll probably need some more days to figure out what is stable and what isn't now :/
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Ewwww I'm sick of this chip.....

Before I attempted (again) to push my luck and see if the CPU would take any oc at all the system would do 3200 DDR4 without any issues

now it just freeze me up every day

I've never been so frustrated over the course of 10 years fiddling intel chips

I just don't understand what I'm even doing wrong, I ran through HCI for another 300% and no errors, but then it would freeze again.

I feel like every stress tests I've gone through are never able to tell me what settings I'm using are wrong.


useless proof of memtest btw...
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I finally got some free time to rerun all the settings

brief runs of OCCT large data sets shows my chip seems to require quite a lot of cache voltage to sustain a ring x34 ratio
I have to set cache to 1.259V just to make it go error free for at least 20min
anything below would pump errors in minutes and below 1.15V would fail to boot

I'm not sure if this is the reason for the freezes though.

May I ask if Broadwell-E would be safe for 24/7 use if cache voltage is around 1.25V? Since comparing to Haswell-Es these chips appears to die much more often so I'd think I should be more safe to this...
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No you'll likely burn up the chip
1.15v is a better limit on cache or defiantly lower than 1.2v

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